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February 03, 2010

Psychiatrist Will Evaluate Rubashkin In Jail

Rubashkin closeup Defense attorneys filed the motion for the evaluation, asking the court to allow the evaluation to determine if any mental conditions exist that might mitigate Rubashkin’s punishment.

Psychiatrist will Evaluate Former Agriprocessors Manager in Jail
By Trish Mehaffey • KCRG

CEDAR RAPIDS - A federal judge will allow convicted former Agriprocessors vice president to be evaluated by a Maryland psychiatrist in the Linn County Jail on Thursday.

U.S. District Chief Judge Linda Reade signed the order today to determine whether there are any psychological matters that could be an issue at sentencing for Sholom Rubashkin. 

Rubashkin, 51, of Postville, was convicted by a jury in November on 86 counts of bank fraud and other charges. A sentencing date hasn’t been set. The charges stem from the May 2008 immigration raid at the former Postville meatpacking plant where more than 389 illegal workers were arrested and charged. 

Defense attorneys filed the motion for the evaluation, asking the court to allow the evaluation to determine if any mental conditions exist that might mitigate Rubashkin’s punishment. Rubashkin faces hundreds of years in prison. 

Dr. Susan Fiester, a forensic psychiatrist from Silver Springs, Md., will examine Rubashkin.

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The doctors report will not be given too much weight as it is being prepared by the defense. I would imagine it comes back with a whole host of problems. Mr. rubashkin will be getting 27 years in USP Allenwood like I said earlier. The problem with having a report done is that he now will be subject to all the stigma's thatr come along with having psych problems while in BOP custody

Seems to me the only question re sentencing was whether he was competent at the time he committed the crimes.
If he is not now competent then his sentence should be served in a psychiatric facility. If he is competent --- welcome to Club Fed.

Maybe he has Mad Cow Disease.

I hear he has continous nightmares in which the government asks him his social security number and he keeps giving the wrong one.

He may be suffering from Narcissism as a result of all those who are hailing him as a martyr!

Too late for an insanity defense. They should have thought of that before the trial. It may have worked better than the "naive kid from Brooklyn" angle.

YL: Come on, if you're not the first one to say it, then I'll have to say it- he'll be diagnosed with clinical MDA, ie mountain dew addiction...

Greed isnt found in the DSM IV although Narcissism is and all that means is longer in the slammer

I don't think that "fatalistic meshichist syndrome" is a recognized disorder, but it should be. Unfortunately, I know a lot of people who suffer from it and lead lives that put them on a clear trajectory to self-destruction.

Apologies to Steve Miller:

I met you in somebody's abattoir
You thought you had known me before
I brought you a crate of glatt chicken
It waited all night by your door
You probably wouldn't remember
I probably couldn't forget
Kosher love in the clink with the pouring chrayn
Everything's better when glatt

chorus:
Kosher love it's drivin' me mad
It's makin' me meshugeh
kosher love it's drivin' me mad
It's makin' me meshugeh

But lately you live in the slammer
I never see you alone
But we need some definite answers
So you went to write Rebbe a note
The question to everyone's answer
Is usually found from his books
But the patterns of the texts
And the truth they confess
Have written your life as a crook

chorus

They treat you like you were a mikvah
They swim in the pool when it's warm
You now may be somebody's shiksa
God protect you and keep you from harm
You live in a world of illusion
Where everything's herring and cream
We all face the judge's conclusion
But you spend your time in a dream

chorus 2x

Yeah, the psychiatric disorder of sociopathic. Bastards think they can get away with whatever they want.

And now here's a question, will he be alone with this female psychiatrist??

What would the rebbe say??

YL,

SMR, "The Joker" would like to "Take the Money and Run" then say "Abracadabra" and poof, "Fly Like an Eagle" on a "Jet Airliner" to Israel.

I doubt it will help him but I wouldn't underestimate Alan Ellis.

Steve: Very good!

Thanks YL.

@ kasha varnishkas, Maybe you should put a letter into a “igeruss” and see what response you get?

Isn't all orthodoxy group psychosis, or only hareidism?

Another Shtick Travesty by bench kvetchers-from YVN -who have no shame-

Efforts are underway to reduce restrictions on avreichim who are currently limited regarding their ability to leave the country. F

rum men who declare they intend to study Torah full time and thereby receive a deferment(read freeload) from IDF service are restricted, and until age 22, they may only leave the country once in three years. After age 22, they may travel abroad once a year.

(It should be noted that once a person eligible for draft receives his induction notice, there are travel restrictions placed on him as well, as is the case with hesder students during the time they are in yeshiva).

For students who live abroad, or their families live abroad, but they make aliyah and learn here, it is most difficult, making regular family visits nearly impossible.

Shas MK R’ Amsellem and members of chareidi parties are seeking to persuade Defense Minister Ehud Barak to exhibit additional leniency, to permit avreichim to travel for yomim tovim and during bein hazmanim.

Requests made to the Defense Ministry received a response that officials are willing perhaps to amend the restriction, but not in the form of passing an amended law, which would give it some permanency.

Seeking to expedite the process, R’ Amsellem sent a request to Defense Minister Barak, signed by leaders of Yahadut HaTorah, Shas, Ichud HaLeumi and Bayit HaYehudi. Rav Amsellem appeals to the minister from a humanistic perspective, to relax restrictions that will permit avreichim to visit their parents and families.

(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)

The psychiatrist Dr. Susan Fiester testified in the Lorena Bobbitt trial!
Lorena was found not guilty due to insanity.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1955&dat=19940119&id=ZYIuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TKEFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1164,2652106

I wonder what this is going to cost!!!! If he is crazy, can he be counted for a minyan?

Nope. And if he's not mentally competent then he is exempt from certain mitzvot. It follows that the government would not need to accommodate his "special needs" in prison if he is lacking in certain mental capacity.

She is well known as an expert witness and court-appointed forensic psychiatrist.

SMR probably liked her because she charged only $210/hour at the Bobbitt trial. Most physicians charge a lot more for 'expert' work.

I can imagine what she'll say when she hears SMR tell her that the rebbe is still alive and is the moshiach.

WSC
Haha good one! She'll declare him stark raving mad as are all mishichists. There's something loose in a lot of chabad people.

This is a tactic that has been used by chareidim in other cases to mitigate punishment. It along with claims of family responsibilities such as a disabled child needing paternal attention.

I would urge anyone with access to a legal data base to search the psychologists name to see what other matters she has been involved with.

There has to be a reason that they are using a psychologist from Silver Springs as if their are no competent psychologists locally.

I hope the prosecution and judge does not fall for any trickery that might be involved.

I think that getting a psych evaluation is a very smart and far-sighted move on the part of the defense.

Recall that days ago a letter was leaked from SMR in which he discussed his desire to prevail over his "enemies."

I have no doubt that this will reflect very badly on SMR, infuriate the court, and result in a stiffer sentence, unless the defense can recast SMR's comment as a paranoid ideation.

That is why they are enlisting the help of a psychiatrist at his time.

Look what I found at a conference for criminal defense lawyers.
http://www.nacdl.org/public.nsf/Events/Aspen_faculty
Bio for
Susan Fiester - Bethesda, MD
Susan Fiester held positions as a Visiting Scientist at the National Institutes of Mental Health and as Associate Medical Director and Medical Director of private psychiatric hospitals in Nashua, New Hampshire and Washington, DC. Dr. Fiester has been engaged in the private practice of psychiatry and forensic psychiatry for more than twenty-five years. She has served as an expert in more than 700 cases across the country, testifying on more than 200 occasions in state and Federal courts as well as in administrative and military courts. Dr. Fiester has served as a forensic psychiatric expert in numerous high profile criminal cases including the Lorena Bobbitt case; the New York City “subway pusher” case (Andrew Goldstein); terrorist cases; infanticide cases and battered women cases. She provides consultation to attorneys, evaluation of clients and testimony in criminal cases, including sentencing mitigation in white-collar criminal cases, and also in civil cases involving employment, medical malpractice, personal jury and civil rights.

Maybe now he thinks his attorney is a chicken.

maybe he'll pay her with gold, you know under the table...then get a kvitel for "taxes"

I suspect that the scourge of Postville is clinically depressed (unhappy he is in the pokey), and exhibits paranoid tendencies (afraid to take a shower). Ought to be substantial enough to get him released.

It may have more to do with where he ultimately will be housed.

Many years ago in the United States, a woman was converted to Judaism by an Aahkenazi rabbi.

She then met a Sephardi man, whose family opposed the marriage unless the conversion was "redone" by a Sephardi rabbi.

His family had money and was willing to pay. The couple traveled the country looking for a Sephardi rabbi who was willing to "redo"
the convesion.

Not not one Sephardi rabbi was willing to "reconvert"
the woman. Doing so would implicitly disrespect the Ashkenazi rabbi's conversion, and everyone flatly and collectively refused to do that.

Those were the great old days.

sorry. my above comment should have been posted under the recent conversion story

All that I can say from the little time I spent with r' S.M Rubashkin even if was going to be sentenced to 1000 years in a dungeon he wouldn't give up hope some might call him crazy I call him a good Jew it some times in takes a long time for the Truth to come out and trust me he's going to do his best to wait it out while doing his best to stay physically and mentally healthy

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