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January 22, 2010

Fight Between Chabad Messianists Leads To Excommunication

Shabbatai Tzvi "He eats on the fasts Chazal established…I can attest that his views regarding belief in the oneness of God contains heresy and apikorsus…His ways are closely reminiscent of the cult of Shabtai Tzvi, and where it may lead, no one can know."


Rabbi Axelrod Warns Against Tel Aviv Event Sponsored by Bat Yam Chabad House

Shturem.net (Translation from VosIzNeais)

Rabbi Gedalyia Axelrod Excommunicates Rabbi Zimroni Tzchik HaRav Gedaliya Axelrod, a prominent Chabad figure in Eretz Yisroel and the rov of the Chabad kehilloh in Haifa, wrote a scathing letter against [Rabbi] Zimroni Tzik, who heads the Chabad House in Bat Yam.

Addressed as an open letter to the kehilloh and dated Thursday, 6 Shevat, the text of the letter reads as follows:


In the matter of the keness Mr. Zimroni Tzik would like to hold on [Sunday] 9 Shevat in the auditorium at Tel Aviv University, following my letter of yesterday I hereby notify the congregation that I spoke today with two prominent Chabad figures shlita, and they told me they personally heard Mr. Zimroni say he eats on Asoroh Beteves and the other fasts Chazal established, and when people ask how they should conduct themselves he does not instruct them to follow his example, but refers them the holy sichos and tells them to examine them in order to determine what to do, Rachmono litzlan.


Likewise he has done away with Simon 131 in Orech Chaim, Rachmono litzlan, removing Nefilas Apoyim from his tefilloh. In general, he holds that neither a rov nor the Shulchon Oruch determines his conduct.


I can attest that his hashkofoh regarding emunoh in the Oneness of Hashem Yisborach contains heresy and apikorsus, like that of his close friend, Mr. Shmuel Frummer.


Since loyal Chabad members are influenced by him and some have fallen into severe decline as a result, he is considered ‘machti es harabbim’ and is the greatest enemy of Melech Hamoshiach.


His ways are closely reminiscent of the cult of Shabsai Tzvi, sheim reshoim yirakev, and where it may lead, no one can know.


According to halochoh, he should be excommunicated – cherem and niddui – if he does not repent, and he must be removed from our community. As such, with a torn and burning heart I hereby issue a call to carefully avoid these evildoers.


Under no circumstances should one attend the abovementioned keness, which is the exact opposite of gatherings of tzaddikim.


Because not a single rabbi is participating in his event, he has invited the illustrious Rav Kalmanson shlita from the US to speak at the event, and I hereby urge him to avoid the event, and he will receive great reward for doing so.

What I think we have here are two separate models for schismatic groups.


The first closely parallels the early Jerusalem Church, which maintained Jewish laws and customs while it added on belief in Jesus as the messiah.

The second closely parallels Shabbatai Tzvi's movement, but with the divinity of the movement's late leader added in, almost a combination of Pauline Christianity and Sabbateanism.

In this case, a leader of the first has excommunicated the leader of the second.

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So now we have the chorus of Meshichist rabbis (following Rabbi Telsner of Melbourne), trying to put the genie back into the bottle. Sorry guys: too little, too late.

So now Chabad is looking for scapegoats.

People really need to read Betzalel Naors Post Sabbatian Sabbatianism
here is a link on Amazon if Shmarya doesnt mind me putting this up.
It seems we were infested with the mystical shtuss of this fellow. And it infiltrated our Siddurim and many minhagim.

And I guess a lot of the Rabbi are part of the Frankist movement that post Sabbatean Jakob Frank orgies and stuff. THat would explain their perverted behavior today.

http://www.amazon.com/Post-Sabbatian-Sabbatianism-Underground-Messianic-Movement/dp/0967451213/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264204443&sr=8-5

the only reason they don't engage in Jakob Frank's type stuff, is defficiency in libido. as it is written, "him that is greater than his friend, his yetzer is greater too!".

Above each loo is a rebbe. I suppose because they spawned this c--p. Looboveacharebbe

"He eats in the fasts Chazal established. - Rabbi Axelrod."

Whoever this Chazal (pronounced "chisel" but with an "a") guy is, he sure has a lot of rules.

Tough name too. I like that!

Apologies to Nirvana: Smells Like Sabbatean Spirit:

Load up on Dew,
Bring your chevra
It's fun to lose and to pretend
Moshiach's on board, self assured
Oy vey, we'll change the Jewish world.

chorus:
Hello, hello, hello, so nu?
Hello, hello, hello, so nu?
Hello, hello, hello, so nu?
Hello, hello, hello.
With the rebbe gone, it's more dangerous
Here we are now, excommunicate us
I feel super sacrilegious
Here we are now, excommunicate us
A Marrano!
An Ashkenazo!
A bisseleh!
My libido!
Yechi!(x3)

I'm worse when I'm a kiruv pest
And for this gift I feel blessed
Our little group has always been
And always will until the end

chorus

(Solo)

And I forget how Dew tastes -
Oh yeah, I guess it makes me smile
I found it hard, it was hard to find
Oh well, we want Moshiach now.

chorus

Adonai, oh!(x9)

Incontrovertable evidence that Rabbi Axelrod is a diehard meshichist: In 1998, 4 years AFTER the Rebbe's passing, Rabbi Axelrod, from the dais of a major meshichist gathering, reads with all pomp a psak din (verdict) of rabbis that the Rebbe is moshiach! Here is a link of his brimstone reading of the psak:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9trQRME1L1c&feature=player_embedded#

B"H

So, a snake and a swine begin arguing about which one is more kosher . . .

THAT WAS TOO FUNNY MICHELLE LOL!!

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