Chabad Settler Rabbi: Don't Worry About Collateral Damage, Jews Can Kill Non-Jews At Will

 [Updated 6:20 pm.] "It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation. If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments - because we care about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the murder [either]."

West Bank rabbi: Jews can kill Gentiles who threaten Israel
Ha'aretz

Just weeks after the arrest of alleged Jewish terrorist, Yaakov Teitel, a West Bank rabbi on Monday released a book giving Jews permission to kill Gentiles who threaten Israel. 

Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, who heads the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the Yitzhar settlement, wrote in his book "The King's Torah" that even babies and children can be killed if they pose a threat to the nation. 

Shapiro based the majority of his teachings on passages quoted from the Bible, to which he adds his opinions and beliefs. 

"It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation," he wrote, adding: "If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments - because we care about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the murder." 

Several prominent rabbis, including Rabbi Yithak Ginzburg and Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, have recommended the book to their students and followers.

I'm not sure about Rabbi Shapira [this is the correct spelling of his name], but Rabbi Ginzburgh and Rabbi Yaakov Yosef are both Chabad followers, and Ginzburgh founded Od Yosef Chai.

UPDATE 6:20 pm – Ma'ariv has an article on this that explains a bit more about the book – and its author.

• The book is talking about a time of war – which, BTW, the author would clearly hold applies to the situation is Israel today. 

• The author does endorse killing innocent non-Jews.

• Rabbi Dov Lior also endorsed the book.

• And, as you can see from the author's picture newly posted above, he is a Chabad follower, just like all the rabbis noted above (except for Lior, who was born into a Belz hasidic family, but is known to be extremely close to Chabad), just like Manis Friedman.

Comments

[ET]

To the best of my knowledge thats a commonly held Habad belief. I was told exactly that by R' Yosef Loschak of Santa Barbara. When I asked why, the reply was "respectfully dont ask me that"

[Choni Davidowitz]

What is a settler Rabbi?

[Norm]

Your site e-mail address is down I want to send you a note can you repost it.

[reuven sabel]

what a horrible chilul hashem! we have no right to kill people just because they are goyim. this is the danger of religious zionism. the torah commands us not to have a jewish state before the coming of the messiah.

[Phillip]

How to win friends and influence people...
by Rabbi Shapiro.

This guy is made from the same material
as the American officer who shot up his
post.

[seymour]

sorry to say it will come a time when we will talking about a major terrorist attack by Jews.

[Hometown Postville]

Terrorism at it's best. What happened to "Love thy neighbor...." Guess it doesn't apply to them.

[soso]

yes,they think and speak like this. I heard it with my own ears.

[critical_minyan]

chabad, is a cult without ethics, that permits killing of women of children, torturing animals with hooks before they die, and stealing from banks.
Additionally, they don't even believe in one god. their main god is the rebbe.
They should really focus on keeping the basic 10 laws of judaism, before they add in lots of stupid laws, like banning stuffed animals for kids shaped like bears and rabbits, even while their hats themselves are made out of rabbit.
I was out saturday night in the city. I saw at least 4 groups of chabad kids out, some with yarmulkes, some without, all rebelling.
The cult is collapsing from within.

[Robert Wisler]

The problem Critical, is that Chabad has craftily fashioned an "air of respectability" which hides its true evil agenda. The cabal of leading "shluchim" in Chabad including Feller, Friedman, Cunin, etc have conspired to perpetuate the lie of Chabad. This is similar to what Sun Myung Moon did when he became "respectable" by buying the Washington Star and becoming politically connected.

Many Jews still point to the "good that Chabad does" or "Chabad is A-number-1 in its ahavas yisroel". Thus, it will take many more Chabad outrages in order for the Jewish community to purge this idolatrous cult from its midst.

I appreciate the progress that this blog has made in exposing Chabad. Hopefully, it will have a large enough readership to open up some people's eyes.

I look forward to the day when Cunin's "telethon" will have zero viewers and lose millions of dollars for his filthy and satanic empire.

[Michael Makovi]

"It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation,..."

If he's not responsible, why would you want to kill him? Either I'm missing something, or this guy is just plain crazy.

(Or perhaps he's so racist that what he really wants to say is, "Kill all the gentiles, period, with or without a reason", but he wanted a peg to hang it on, so he chose to obfuscate his racism in terms of defense against terrorism.)

However, you might please be more specific than "settler rabbi". Rabbi Shlomo Riskin of Efrat is technically a "settler rabbi" as well, you know. And Rabbi Yehuda Amital of the Meimad (religious Labor) party, since his yeshiva (Har Etzion) is in the West Bank, he's apparently a "settler rabbi" as well.

[rabbidw]

I do not know what context Rabbi Shapira was talking about. If he was referencing the infamous Goldstone report, thenhe is 100% correct. When terrorists hide among civilians, there is no obligation, either religious or secular, to even attempt to separate the innocent from the guilty. It is the job of the "innocent" to throw out the terrorists. If the civilians fail to do so, thet have no right to complain.
Obviously it does not give anyone carte blanche to kill innocent civilians, it is that in war, civilians will be victims. The US fire bombed Dresden and killed many civilians in all wars from the Civil War on.
It is the Arabs that target innocents, not Israel.

[Shmarya]

I do not know what context Rabbi Shapira was talking about. If he was referencing the infamous Goldstone report, thenhe is 100% correct.

It's a book, so he can't be talking about Goldstone, which is less than a month old.

Past that, his point is that Jews don't need to worry about killing even Righteous Gentiles who are wholly INNOCENT.

Conversely, that would not be true about either Jews and other Jews or Righteous Gentiles attacking terrorists holding Jews.

In other words, Shapira – like his mentor Ginzburgh – is a racist fascist.

[rabbidw]

Possibly, but I would still like to see the context. You are very quick to judge and condemn. The Goldtone argument did not originate with him. I used it as shorthand for the argument that if ANY innocent civilians are killed by Isrealis, in a retaliation, or in a war, Israel is wrong and must be condemned. Unlike other countries Israel can only exercise the right of self defense if no innocent civilians are so much as bruised, and even their property, their houses, their sheep, their olive trees cannot be touched. Meanwhile Jews are free targets. I am less concerned about a Jewish Rabbi writing a book than the votes at the UN

[Shmarya]

Possibly, but I would still like to see the context. You are very quick to judge and condemn.

That might be because, 1) I know Rabbi Ginzburgh and, 2) I know the history of Ginsburgh and his followers.

[A. Nuran]

Gotta love the logic her. It must be alright for Aryans and Arabs to kill Jew babies. If they haven't joined ZOG or murdered Palestinians yet it's only a matter of time.

At the very least, Rabbi Shapiro need to be taken out and shot for endangering all Yidden with his evil, feloniously stupid pronouncements.

[Yoel Mechanic]

The United States, or any modern nation today has no problem with the idea that one kills the righteous amongst a nation that threatens one (as in a time of war). The main difference is that modern nations hardly bother to think this a point worthy for discussion. Amongst Jews, one might raise the issue "Can we really kill even the righteous"? When the US made war on Iraq, or Germany, Italy, Japan, etc. and bombed them is it possible that amongst those living in Iraq etc. there were righteous individuals, in fact so righteous they had no interest or desire to harm the United States in any fashion? Did anyone concern themselves they even those individuals would be in harms way and likely to be killed along with enemy hostiles? Occasionally, some pacifists will raise this issue, but hardly anyone in authority even bothers to address this concern because it is such a given that those righteous amongst the enemy could be killed. Hardly a concern to even talk about it. The fact that in Jewish law this issue is taken seriously, and discussed is now taken as yet another reason to hypocritically cast aspersions on Jewish law.

[R]

What a fool. You can kill babies if they pose a threat? This guy is a loon and should be locked up.

[Harold F]

We should remember that Fleet Admiral William Leahy, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during World War ll called the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki "the ethics of the barbarians."

It seems these religious leaders advocate these ethics.

[soso]

I suppose that the Kiryat Arba burnt heads do not represent all of chabad.

However it is true that, especially in Isreal, there is a dangerous proximity between chabad and the extreme right.

[Pablo Faird]

Everyone needs to relax a moment.
Is this guy referring to a time of war where you have ``collateral damage``, where there might be some truth to what he says so long as the innocent are not targeted?
If not, then it is obvious that these guys are nuts and that they dont have a following. Perhaps one of the posters can educate us as to the last time any haredi or any jew for that matter killed a non-jew with this line of reasoning and based on his psak.
The question that I would like answered is why does Shmarya post this junk?

[Levi G.]

I will rather have a question on some verse, then a question on G-OD.

These people have made up their minds to this regard before they found some verse somewhere, thus forgetting the many verses and halachos on killing a innocent person.

Like, for war we need a sanhedrin, and protecting the state for the sake of protecting jews is pure illusion, why fight the arabs? go live somehere wherever you like.

Not even describing the danger and chilul hashem these comments provoke.

[Harry Wood]

I Vont your bllod! You Failed Jew. The reason there are soooo many Jewish pedophiles, is because all male Jews were INTERFERED with when they were babies. Now they want to play with other Jewish Willies. Elementary my Dear Watson!

[Mr. Apikorus]

If what Schapira meant was that it's OK to kill innocents in a time of war, well, it's not OK, but we do what we have to do. We don't have magic ordnance which only hit military targets, although we (the US and Israel, among others) do a lot better than was the case in World War II or even Vietnam. For example, if terrorists are shooting from within a hospital, you take out the hospital. Yes, innocents will suffer but it's the terrorists' fault for using a hospital as a place to launch terrorist acts. The Geneva Convention recognizes this, even if Goldstone and the hypocritical peaceniks don't.

On the other hand, the excerpts also seem to indicate that it's OK to kill Gentiles simply because they violate the Noahite Commandments, no, it isn't. No more and no less OK than it would be to kill Jews who do likewise.

[shneerhere]

Why doesn't somebody just get the book?
We can then determine if there was a context we are all missing, or if this author is just plain wrong.

[the Monsey Tzadik]

Well said, Mister Apikorus

[levi]

why do people look at the action of the USA for justification?? since when is this government a moral or ethical authority??? history would suggest that, on the contrary, you should look to it as an example of how not to behave

[ML]

I suppose it's alright to murder Jews too, because one of their "rabbis" will just retroactively decide that the person wasn't Jewish anyway.

[Shmarya]

I just updated the post. The rabbi is a Chabadnik.

[Rachel]

Invitation for more Jewish terrorists. How sad! This sounds like a guide for Halachot for killing goyim - If and when it is permitted to take the life of someone who is not a Jew. Shame!!

[Mr. Apikorus]

What wonderful country do you live in, Levi?

Earth to Levi: George W. Bush is no longer President of the United States. And he wasn't succeeded by Dick Cheney.

[Yosef ben Matitya]

What is a settler Rabbi? asks Choni.

That is one more prone to be a cookoo creep? (probably, no?).

[Friar_Yid]

R. Ginzburg has a long history of supporting Jewish violence. He was instrumental in putting together a memorial book to Baruch Goldstein and even contributed a chapter discussing Goldstein's killings as a Kiddush Hashem. He had also given spiritual advice to members of the Jewish Underground in the 1980s.

More here.

Sounds like Schapira is just re-hashing his teacher's old ideas.

[Max]

Ginsburg needs to be arrested on charges of inciting a riot, not for what he wrote in a book, but because of what he has verbally told his followers. If any of his followers commit murder, Ginsburg should stand trial as an accessory to murder. The legal system in Israel must act to protect its citizens and their values.

[Yosef ben Matitya]

ginzburg, shapiro, volpo, manic friedman, lior, steinsaltz, shemtov, krinsky, they are all the same.
their real beliefs should be made known to the decent jews which they slowly poison, the government porsonalities which they deceive, in america, in israel, all over the world. their menoras do not spread light, but venom.
סוּרוּ מִמֶּנִּי, כָּל-פֹּעֲלֵי אָוֶן:

[Derech]

חב"ד=חילול השם

[Todriss]

Robert, Have you ever had a conversation with any of the "leading shluchim" that you mention?

[David]

Choni Davidowitz - don't play dumb.

Why don't you go back to posting on music blogs masquerading as a teenager to lure Jewish kids into your vile politics?

[DeWayne]

Permit an old male Christian a moment of worry. I do worry that Judaic will come to harm because of Zionist of the inner group, and becuse of Christians kept ignorant about the special and devout Jewish that will see all promises of old come to pass.

Speaking to my Christian friends about this worry seems not to register, forum-texting with suspected Zionist apologist's seems not to register, this worries me for the signs that we appear to be in. Perhaps it is only fair that I see situation's for Christians nearing the same condition and danger.

[Chicago Sam]

When you look at the theology of Chabad as stated in Chp. 2 of the Tanya, why should anyone be surprised? Tanya plainly endorses the belief that only Jews have a godly soul while gentiles do not.

This character reminds me of the scene in Borat, but this time it is "kill the gentile ..."

Chabad and sickos--a match made in Hell

[Polen]

Nazzi Rabbi? :)

[biklo]

Nazzi Israel kills non-Jews