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November 04, 2009

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seymour

it seems many people who are involved in scamming, try to buy their way into heaven by giving their illicit gains to charity in a very flashy way

yankele

OOH, let's be shocked that Chabad takes money from crooks!!!

Why do you continue to hold Chabad to such high standards??? How many times do you have to "prove" that a duck is a duck.

But the issue isn't just a Chabad issue, it's an issue for all Jewish organizations.

Here are examples, Cut and Pasted from a JTA article.

Ivan Boesky, an investment banker, in 1987 was convicted of insider trading and sentenced to three years in prison. Boesky was a board member of the Conservative movement's Jewish Theological Seminary, and had endowed the library. Boesky resigned from the board and JTS removed his name from the library, but kept his donations.

Michael Milken, who, with Boesky, was convicted of insider trading is now a prominent funder of Los Angeles Jewish causes, including a large Jewish day high school that [Still] bears his name. Milken, who served several years in prison but has been released, was also considered for a presidential pardon by Clinton but did not get one.

In a 1997 situation that involved no crime, Henry Everett, a board member of UJA-Federation of Greater New York objected when James Tisch was named the organization's president because Tisch was president of Loews Corporation, which owns the Lorillard Tobacco Company, a company Everett charged had lied about the dangers of nicotine and was responsible for millions of cancer-related deaths. However, after a board discussion of the issue, Tisch prevailed

Shmarya

I knew Henry and his wife.

Past that, Ooooooooooh! Lets not mention that another Jewish ponzi scheme happened! Lets not mention haredim lost millions! Lets not mention the crook gave millions to Chabad!!!! Lets ignore it!!!!!!!!! [/end sarcasm - for the moment]

harold

I don't see why the thrust of this story's headline is the loss of monies belonging to haradim and the fact that a chabad center was named after a major contributer who turned out to be a fraud.

This is like a person that comes into a hospital after being shot in the chest and hand and only focusing on his hand injury.

yankele

You're missing my point.

What Rothstein did was wrong. It's horrible that he stole money and I feel bad for the people who lost their life savings.

But it isn't shocking that Chabad took his money. Every Jewish Organization has (o.k, not every but far too many). It won't be shokcing if Chabad of Florida keeps the money and Rothstein's name on the building. Just following that longstanding tradition of Jewish organizations crying crocidile tears.

Example: I recently read that Hadassah actually made money off the Madoff scheme (they put in early, got returns, for many years, withdrew most of their investment, before the house of cards came down.) Yet no one is suggesting that Hadassah give back the profits it made off Madoff's ponzi scheme. (the same is true of the Wilpon family, owners of the Mets)

Keeping the money is the only thing that Conservative, Orthodox, Reform, and Chabad can agree on.

Next time, file the story under "typical Jewish organization"

critical_minyan

my guess is that the chabad rabbi converted kimmie, scott rothstein's second wife.
That is why they got the big donation.
I have no proof of that, but that is usually the way it works with big businessman. Rabbi converts a woman who if she came with a poor shnook would have been sent away.
anybody know if kimmie was converted by Rabbi shneur.

Mr. Apikorus

Milken did a lot more good than bad. Boesky, on the other hand, was as crooked as they come.

R

Big Baal tzedakah these people and they get praises through the roof for all their giving. Sadly i don't think G-d sees it in the same way.

Diena

Schneur Kaplan is not authrorized to use the Chabad name in his activities, which is why his center is no longer listed on the Chabad website.

Bilaam's Donkey

Can you change the title? All indications so far are that this was NOT a Ponzi scheme. It was straight out theft/conversion of investor funds. Not every fraud is a Ponzi.

Shmarya

The early reports used "Ponzi," I think. But I'll change it.

Sarah

Chabad seems to attract so many of these types. Do they actively recruit them or it it just water seeking its own level?

Jack Schitt, Esq.

So Shmarya, have you managed to dig up a Chabad connection with any of the Jews arrested today in NYC?

ah-pee-chorus

Jack Schitt-

dont i know you from somewhere? many people tell me i dont.

Lashon Harah

I have heard from some of the investors that apparently Murry Huberfeld, of Lawrence, NY, who has a list of investigations against him, knew about the fraud for 6 months.

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