Hypocrites: Desperately Ill Haredi Leader Rushed To Hadassah

His community rioted in Jerusalem and Beit Shemesh and protested at the UN in NYC. They continue to call Hadassah "Auschwitz" and its doctors "Dr. Mengele." But he is at least the third member of Edah Charedis leadership to be treated at Hadassah Hospital in the past weeks.

Dayan Rosenberger to Undergo Surgical Procedure
Yechiel Spira • Yeshiva World News / Israel

Tefillos [prayers] took place in the Beit Shemesh Satmar community on Thursday as the condition of Dayan Yehoshua [ben Hinda Leah] Rosenberger took a turn for the worse. The rav, who is a  member of the Eida Chareidis Beis Din, was rushed to Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in a post cardiac arrest state after collapsing on Friday night Simchas Torah.

The rabbonim of the Beit Shemesh community decided to call the tefilla rally due to recent events, including the worsening of the rav’s condition, as well as the petira on the first day of slichos of Bracha Feiga Williger z”l, who left 10 children.

Doctors were concerned on Thursday as the rav’s fever climbed, indicated it was not an optimistic sign, with the medical team explaining the new development eliminates previous hopes of his discharge.

The rav is now scheduled to undergo a procedure to implant a cardiac pacemaker, on Monday, which the doctors hope will address the current cardiac irregularities.

Comments

[seymour]

what will happen if he dies wil, they riot

[harold]

What a sick spin on a story about a very sick human being. One can be against the administration of a hospital and still acknowledge the quality of its medical staff.

What if a fictional person, say his name is Scott, gets hit by a bus and the first ambulance that arrives is from Hatzallah and happens to be staffed by members of the Lubavitch sect, and lets say that this fictional person, Scott, just so happens to hate the Lubavitch movement, would it make sense for Scott to say, I will wait for the next ambulance to arrive, thank you.

[Shmarya]

One can be against the administration of a hospital and still acknowledge the quality of its medical staff.

Please.

Do you actually read?

His community published booklets and printed huge wall posters calling that medical staff "Dr. Mengele" and the hospital Auschwitz.

They stood in front of the UN and Hadassah offices in New York calling Hadassah Nazis and its doctors Nazis.

They rioted for weeks on end against the "Nazi" hospital, the "Nazi" doctors, and the "Nazi" state.

And you write, "One can be against the administration of a hospital and still acknowledge the quality of its medical staff"?

What mental illness do you have? Flackery and Apologetics Syndrome?

[ah-pee-chorus]

harold _-

you are indeed a fool. the problems the rabbis had with hadassah were not hashkafic. THEY ACCUSED THE DOCTORS OF ADMINISTERING NAZI-LIKE TREATMENT. if they believed this , why would anyone go there?
and in your childish and foolish attempt to analogize, you fail to see that 'scott' never claimed hatzoloh was evil and nazi-like in their medical endeavors. they might be wonderful paramedics and EMTs even if one may disagree with their religious views. get a clue. your apologies for the haredim do them more harm than good. but you are too challenged to realize it.

[Ben]

The 1st question in my mind is: 1) Why Satmar Rabbi goes to a Hospital when better treatments exist - for example 50 kabbalists praying and blowing shofars would fix the problem in no time (like they fixed swine flu). Even simple reading of tehillim would work much better then any hospital. Also reading tehillim would work much better.
The second is 2) Why go to aushwitz mengele hytlerisque Jew hating place like hadassa?

Is it possible that Satmar and Eida Haredit's leadership did not believe what they were saying about Hadassa from the very beginning? Is it possible that they engaged in Public Slander (not simple lashon Hara, but slander) right before Yom Kippur. Then is it possible that they don't believe in G-d, but only worship their own power and control of the "masses"?

[ah-pee-chorus]

suppose there is a man named 'harry' and i tell everyone that by dint of his posts on a blog i can see that he is a complete and utter fool ,out of touch with reality. but he is very tall. would it be hypocritical of me to ask for 'harry's assistance in reaching up to get something for me from a shelf i cannot reach? i don't think so. would it be hypocritical to ask his advice on any issue which required thought? absolutely.

[maven]

Ben, question 1 is not valid, that's not a classical chassidic or European Orthodox view, they always went to doctors, in fact, they have reverence for the "big professors" and there are many Chassidic stories that take place around the sanitoriums and health resorts of the nineteenth century. The use of magic as a replacement for "western" medicine is a Sepharadic thing, which is why is was Rabbi Batzri who led the shofar blowing event. It is also a common theme of the Israeli chozer b'teshuva phenomenon, in which there is a rejection of Western society and values (frequently a result of someone's year in India post army, etc).

As far as your second paragraph, that is exactly correct. Many of the chareidi leaders have or are treated by the hematology and oncology group at Hadassah, including leaders of the meah shearim communities even at this very moment, and have financial arrangements with specific radiologists, etc, in their minds i suppose they separate out the "doctors at Hadassah" from "Hadassah".

[harold]

How simplistic to not be able to distinguish between political posturing and the actual treatment of patients. I am sure that when a statement is made like "THEY ACCUSED THE DOCTORS OF ADMINISTERING NAZI-LIKE TREATMENT" they do not mean ALL the doctors in the hospital.

[Shmarya]

Please.

Your "political posturing" caused weeks of riots, many injuries, and close to a million dollars in property damage.

These haredim have been very clear.

You can't call doctors "Mengele" and Hadassah "Auschwitz" but take medical care from those same doctors and Hadassah.

[harold]

You can't call doctors "Mengele" and Hadassah "Auschwitz" but take medical care from those same doctors and Hadassah.

I guess you can :)

Anyway from Ynet->

Hadassah Hospital: Eda Haredit leader hospitalized, released

Published: 10.07.09, 19:44 / Israel News

The Eda Haredit leader, Rabbi Tuvia Weiss, was hospitalized in Jerusalem's Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital after feeling unwell and was released a short time later. Hadassah Ein Kerem is the same hospital the haredi community protested against in the "starving mother" affair.

One of the members of the Eda Haredit said to Ynet that Weis' hospitalization proves that no official figure is boycotting the hospital and that any such boycott is being carried out at the behest of private individuals only. (Ronen Medzini and Kobi Nahshoni)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3786946,00.html

[SJ]

They should send Elysehv for treatment in Iran or Afghanistan.

[harold]

They should send Elysehv for treatment in Iran or Afghanistan.

I don't get it - why?

[Successful Messiah]

This post is a gross breach of the public trust that was placed in you. You schorred funds so that you can take a vacation to Sious Falls. When those funds were donated to you it was in trust that you would use it properly to report on the Rubashkin trial. Instead of utilizing your time to do what you promised to do, you are simply posting articles written by others and wasting your time posting about silly issues. Are you also utilizing funds donated to you on hookers?

[Shmarya]

Please.

When I raise enough to pay to go, I'll go.

This trial is expected to last 4 to 6 weeks and then the immigration trial which follows it by one week will last that long or even longer.

Perhaps if you donated money instead of bitching, I'd be there already.

[alternative childcare]

Successful Messiah: The idea of hookers in Sioux Falls is rather uninviting, unless one likes toothless meth addicted biker chics with lots of tattoos.

[Ben]

They should send Elysehv for treatment in Iran or Afghanistan.

I don't get it - why?

Posted by: harold | October 16, 2009 at 01:59 PM

To let the rabbi experience first hand the type society that he is trying to impose on everyone whole his life. This would be a dream come true to the old man: everyone is super tznius, man a women are super separated, everyone relies on G-d alone (no government exist to talk about), no taxes, everyone follows religious leaders only.... Ah... bliss.

[Successful Messiah]

Perhaps you should call SMR and see if he would be willing to host you while you are there. This way you won't have to pay room and board.

[harold]

... the type society that he is trying to impose on everyone ...

Everyone or just his followers? I had no idea that what he says is considered law for "everyone". It certainly isn't for me.

[critical_minyan]

their protests are circuses for the bored charedi youth. their statements condemning hadassah are cynical attempts to inflame their gullible constituents.
the only question I have is to what level these guys believe their own idiocy.
is this moronic, idiotic dayan afraid of being expermineted on medically or did he know the whole time that he was making up stuff to incite his followers.

[seymour]

"Are you also utilizing funds donated to you on hookers?"

I am sure if he goes to one he will make sure they went to the mikva and was not wearing contact lenses

[SJ]

Stop being a smart ass Harold, Israel's haredim are trying to control everyone in Israel who aren't haredim.

[Successful Messiah]

"I am sure if he goes to one he will make sure they went to the mikva and was not wearing contact lenses"

I didn't know male prostitutes have to go to the mikva.

[Isa]

Regarding SM comment:
""You schorred funds so that you can take a vacation to Sious Falls.""
VACATION!? in Sioux Falls!? An 'armpit' city! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha WHAT A COMEDIAN!
Of course there are worse places like the site of the coal gassification plant in Beula North Dakota where people go outside and watch the street lights turn on for excitement

[ah-pee-chorus]

""I didn't know male prostitutes have to go to the mikva.""

Posted by: Successful Messiah | October 17, 2009 at 07:48 PM

now you're going to have to change your whole routine.

[reuven sabel]

there are 2 semicoexisting governments in eretz yisroel, one religious and the other an antireligious nazi gestapo. netanyahu, the ymachshmoni leader of the antireligious nazi gestapo government who fully supports the police brutality of the the jerusalem nazi gestapo pigs is runs most of the israeli governmeernt, but fortunately the cheif rabbis run part of the government.
same with hadassah hospital where there are both good religious and semi- religious doctors and there are also very bad antireligious zionist nazi gestapo dr mengelas who use haredim as guinei pigs whenever they think we are naieve enough for them to get away with it.
it is our duty to either boycott hadassah hospital or show them that we are not so naieve.
burn baby burn

[effie]

Boycotting is only for the little people, RS. Your leaders head straight for Hadassah Hospital whenever they sneeze. IOW, you're being played.

[reuven sabel]

tel hashomer is a much better hospital than hadassah unless one is being treated by a religious private doctor i hadassah.