Did The Haredi Head Honcho Tell A Haredi Charity It's Okay To Lie To Raise Money?

Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv denies he said it, and the haredi newspaper that printed it retracted. But is it true?

Charedi Israeli Paper Recalled After Misquoting HaRav Eliyashiv
Benjamin Slobodkin • VIN News

Jerusalem - A Hebrew-language weekly halted distribution after mistakenly printing a front-page  lead saying HaRav Eliyashiv shlita had permitted heads of Vaad HaRabbonim LeInyonei Tzedokoh to print stories that have little truth to them in order to persuade the public to donate generously for the sake of poor families supported by the fund.

HaRav Eliyashiv based the psak on the concept of “kofin al hatzedokoh,” said the article printed in Bakehila, a weekly based in Jerusalem.

Early in the morning the editors’ cell-phones were flooded with calls from irate askonim and rabbonim associated with Vaad HaRabbonim, claiming the article was unfounded. Some figures went to verify the report at HaRav Eliyashiv’s home, where it was denied outright.

With phones continuing to ring off the hook the editors decided to take a measure unprecedented in the paper’s 12 years of publication: the entire paper was reprinted, the original version was whisked off news

“Due to a mistake and misunderstanding by the reporter,” Bakehila Board Chairman Shmuel Meir Hirshman told Chadrei Chadarim, “it appears as if Maran HaRav Eliyashiv permitted tzedokoh committees to print inaccuracies. The paper’s oversight staff took note of the remarks, because any thinking person realizes that HaRav Eliyashiv could not have uttered such things. As a result the remarks were deleted from the body of the article and corrected. This can be seen in the body of the article, which appears on page 12 of the paper.

“Unfortunately, when the lead was printed on the front page, the original, erroneous version was pasted in,” Hirshman explained.

“As soon as we noticed what had happened we ordered the distributors to stop delivering the newspaper to stores. At the same time we printed a new edition, without the error.”

Reading between the lines, it seems plausible that Rabbi Elyashiv did say it's okay to lie in this context, as long as there is some basic truth to the story. (Think of it like a myth, perhaps.)

But having that publicized hurts haredi nonprofits, hence the anger from the nonprofit in question and from Rabbi Elyashiv's handlers who, above all else, don't want Rabbi Elyashiv to appear feeble or foolish.

Most of us are familiar with this modern-day haredi fable-making as ArtScroll 'biographies' and articles in the Jewish Observer (R.I.P.), Hamodia, Yated Ne'eman, Matzav.com, and other haredi publications, along with fundraising brochures from haredi institutions worldwide.

The important question is not whether this particular nonprofit made up stories or whether Rabbi Elyashiv approved those lies.

The important question is whether this cavalier approach to truth existed in Orthodoxy 100, 200, 300, or 3,000 years ago.

I think the evidence is Orthodoxy/traditional Judaism has played fast and loose with the truth for a very long time.

But it doesn't matter if you think otherwise.

What matters is Orthodoxy – at least haredi Orthodoxy – distributes fable and calls it truth.

That means you don't know whether the "historical" account you read is true or false, reality or a fairy tale.

And that means there is no mesora,

Why?

Because the keepers of that mesora cannot be trusted, and the mesora by definition must be based on trust – and that trust must be based on truth.

Comments

[maven]

"That means you don't know whether the "historical" account you read is true or false, reality or a fairy tale."

This is not new, of course. It was a genuine cottage industry in the late 19th century to create Baal Shem Tov stories, etc. Interestingly, Chabad only trusts their own "Baal Shem Tov" material for this reason.
And here's the big question: Which famous Rabbi is supposed to have created a Golem? And what is the source that has everyone answering incorrectly?

[steve]

Maven,

In maseches Sanhedrin it mentions that Rava created a Golem.

[ah-pee-chorus]

yeah but that was made from an old leg-o set.

[seymour friedman]

there are so many outlandish stories ,most are obliviously fantasy, but many take it as real history that is the problem

Like the story that a mountain moved for the Baal shem tov

[Ben]

I thought it was Maharal

[joe]

ya I hate those annoying advertisements, but to say that Judaism has been making things up for 3000 years, is retarded maybe the American& French revolutions never happend, I mean we have no video footage and nobody is alive from back then. I hope with the new year this site will have a change of attitude

[Ben]

If one Haredi guy suggest saying falshoods are Ok it does not immidiately disqualifies entire mesora.

The system must be self correcting - i.e. there should be enough people to contradict and correct him, which is exactly what has happened in this particular story.

[harold]

Lest see. HaRav Eliyashiv dened it, the paper that published the story said their story was in error. Hum, a real tough one to figure out.

Does anyone remember the story posted here where the owner of Swarma King in Monticello was accused of pointing a gun at three of his employees only to have the story retracted.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2009/08/shwarma-king-owner-allegedly-points-gun-at-employees-trying-to-stop-him-from-sexually-harassing-females-567.html

[ah-pee-chorus]

the fact that the reporter who had no reason to make this up not only heard the ruling but the halachic justification for it makes the retraction/denial seem highly dubious. i believe elyashiv or his people said it and meant it but weren't counting on it being exposed or underestimated the negative response, so they claimed it was a mistake. the only mistake is assuming elyashiv or his minions have any integrity.
one more on the list of shameful rulings.

[Shlomo]

I would like to wish everyone a Shana Tova

[ira]

shana tovah umitukah to everyone

[Yosef ben Matitya]

Did The Haredi Head Honcho Tell A Haredi Charity It's Okay To Lie To Raise Money?

without a doubt, he did.
the fault of the newsman was exposing it to the wrong eyes, wrong ears.