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July 12, 2009

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Yochanan Lavie

Better African Christians than extremist Muslims.

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There is a history of this, I've treated the Vietnamese refugees in Israel that Menachem Begin a"h saved, and back in the US was invited to the wedding of an Ethiopian Christian who had been saved during the rescue operations in Sudan, the Israeli soldiers saw this starving kid and took him along, he recovered, moved to the US, and built up a whole fleet of taxis, and is forever grateful to Israel for saving his life.

David Willig

Why I have not jumped on the bandwagon of Child Abuse.
(July 12) - Former Vancouver police officer Clyde Ray Spencer spent nearly 20 years in prison after he was convicted of sexually molesting his son and daughter. Now, the children say it never happened.
Matthew Spencer and Kathryn Tetz, who live in Sacramento, Calif., each took the stand Friday in Clark County Superior Court to clear their father's name, The Columbian newspaper reported.
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Matthew, now 33, was 9 years old at the time. He told a judge he made the allegation after months of insistent questioning by now-retired Clark County sheriff's detective Sharon Krause just so she would leave him alone.
Tetz, 30, said she doesn't remember what she told Krause back in 1985, but she remembers Krause buying her ice cream. She said that when she finally read the police reports she was "absolutely sure" the abuse never happened.
"I would have remembered something that graphic, that violent," Tetz said.
Spencer's sentence was commuted by then-Gov. Gary Locke in 2004 after questions arose about his conviction. Among other problems, prosecutors withheld medical exams that showed no evidence of abuse, even though Krause claimed the abuse was repeated and violent.
Despite the commutation, Spencer remains a convicted sex offender. He is hoping to have the convictions overturned.
Krause declined an interview request from The Columbian in 2005 and could not be reached Friday, the newspaper reported.
Both children said that while growing up in California they were told by their mother, who divorced Spencer before he was charged, that they were blocking out the memory of the abuse.
They said they realized as adults the abuse never happened, and they came forward because it was the right thing to do.
Prosecutors aren't yet conceding that Spencer was wrongly convicted. Senior deputy prosecutor Kim Farr grilled the children about why they are so certain they weren't abused, and chief criminal deputy prosecutor Dennis Hunter said that if the convictions are tossed, his office might appeal to the state Supreme Court.
Matthew Spencer said his father had ruined the relationship with his mother and he had faults, "but none of them were molesting children."
Friday's hearing paved the way for the state Court of Appeals to allow Spencer to withdraw the no-contest pleas he entered in 1985 and have his convictions vacated. Both children had previously filed statements with the appeals court, but the judges required the hearing to ensure their new testimony held up under cross-examination.
Spencer, 61, hugged his son and daughter afterward while a dozen supporters cheered.

Shmarya

Why I have not jumped on the bandwagon of Child Abuse.…

That's a bit childish, don't you think?

It's like paskening from the rare exception, rather than the rule or making American law based on rarities instead of on what usually happens.

Using what passes for your logic, there should no laws against murder because sometimes people are wrongly convicted.

And there certainly should be no traffic laws – after all, sometimes radar fails.

WoolSilkCotton

David Willig, your concerns are understandable.

In particularly nasty divorces (what Jewish divorce isn't ugly), parents try to manipulate young children against the other parent. Mental health professionals have confirmed that women are much more likely to do this than men.
It is horrifying to realize that children can be convinced of even nonexistent abuse, both by shrewd evil manipulative parents (usually the mother) as well as by overzealous prosecutors looking to make a name for themselves.

Consider reading the book The Parental Alienation Syndome.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_2_14?url=
search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=parental+alienation+syndrome+gardner
&sprefix=parental+alien

My own ex-wife tried to do this to me. Fortunately, I had the financial means to hire an excellent attorney and experts to interview the children. The charges were dismissed, but it cost me a fortune.

By the way, mental health professionals are surprisingly useless when they testify. They tend to be wishy-washy and play it close to the vest. They all seem afraid to show courage and take a firm stand on behalf or anyone or anything.

Of course, the ongoing accusations of child molestation horrors we read about in the religious community are not being adequately addressed by those communities. But, as you seem to be saying, every defendant has the right to defense counsel. Not everyone can afford the kind of attorney you really need. And even if a defendant 'wins', it leaves him financially devastated and his life in pieces.
May true, reasonable, appropriate justice prevail in this matter.

David Willig

Shmarya, the problem is there is nothing that is easier to claim and harder to prove, and the claim itself can be devastating without any real evidence. See Lillian Hellman's play, later made into a movie, THE CHILDREN'S HOUR. And what is it, anyway? I have heard father's accuses of abuse because they tickeled their toddler's. And to we really want to arrest parents who might spank their children? I am not saying that there is no such thing as abuse, of course their is. I am saying that there are hugs of closeness that are not sexual and not abusive. Charges should be carefully investigated before being made public.
On a personal note, I remember at age 7 going to Yankee Stadium and hoping that an adult would have an extra ticket to take me to the ball game. Is child abuse so much more prevalent today, or are we just more conscious of the possibility?

maven

David- any relation to the legendary Toby Willig?

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