Haredi Riots Continue In Jerusalem, Spread To Beit Shemesh

Jerusalem's mayor cuts off all city services to haredi areas "until such time that providing them will not entail risking human life." 

These are new riots that began Wednesday morning:

City suspends services to haredi neighborhoods

Barkat announces suspension of services after ultra-Orthodox protestors take to streets in defense of Neturei Karta mother accused of starving toddler son; mother refuses to cooperate in investigation

Efrat Weiss • Ynet

Dozens of ultra-Orthodox demonstrators torched garbage bins Wednesday in Jerusalem's Shabbat Square in protest against the arrest of the haredi mother accused of starving her three-year-old son.

Police arrived on the spot, and arrested 15 people. A Border Guard officer was injured by a stone thrown at him, and cars and buses were damaged.

Rioters have also taken to the streets in Beit Shemesh. Police are on location.  

Following the riots Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat ordered all city services to the Meah Shearim and Geola haredi neighborhoods suspended "in an attempt to prevent the threat posed to municipal employees in the area".

The Jerusalem Municipality said that the services will not be renewed "until such time that providing them will not entail risking human life." The mayor said he regretted the harm done to those who had not participated in the uprising, and that he hoped services would be renewed soon.

The allegedly abusive mother whose detainment sparked the riots was arrested as she left welfare offices. She continues to refuse to cooperate with investigators.

The abuse affair, which was cleared for publication Tuesday, led to mass riots Tuesday in the capital as hundreds of haredi protestors took to the streets, burning trash bins on Bar-Ilan Street and at Shabbat Square.

The woman, who apparently suffers from Munchausen by proxy, allegedly abused her three-year-old son, refusing to feed him until his weight dipped to a mere 7 kilograms (about 15 pounds). The boy was transferred to Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in February and has been there ever since.

It was later revealed that the woman is a member of the Neturei Karta community. She has other children and is currently pregnant.

Police initially asked to arrest the mother at the hospital, but the hospital's management would not allow it. Following pressure from the police, welfare officials were compelled to hand over details of the time and place of the woman's next appointment at their offices. She was eventually detained during a meeting with a social worker.

Rioters broke into the welfare offices near the ultra-Orthodox Mea Shaarim neighborhood in Jerusalem on Sunday and proceeded to wreak havoc on the office, breaking things and shouting, "Nazis! We will burn you." On Monday, unknown rioters arrived at a different welfare office in the city and set one of its doors on fire.

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Comments

[MisterApikoros]

These people don't believe in the State of Israel, yet they continue to schnorr off the taxpayers? Yet they DEMAND that other Jews (and for that matter, Israeli Muslims and Christians) kowtow to their 17th Century BS.

They are parasites, in the true sense of the word. I don't give a damn what Hitler called Jews who paid taxes, served in the German military, and pulled more than their fair share. They weren't parasites; these maggots are.

Deport 'em. Now.

[Alan]

Do you have to wear your gartel to a riot?

[WoolSilkCotton]

He lost his hat, so he's covering his head with a shoe!

[justayid]

Is it still NKniks, as far as we know?

What % of the inhabitants of Mea Shearim are NK supporters?

[Yochanan Lavie]

WSC: Funny, he doesn't look Shoe-ish.

[Althelion]

City services? Who needs city services? These folks are waiting for manna to fall from the sky.

Let's make a list of hareidi reasons to riot:

1. An open parking lot on Shabbos
2. Arresting an abusive mother
3. Just because gay people exist
4. Just because there are Jews who don't look like us and don't act like us
5. All women are whores!

[justayid]

"Do you have to wear your gartel to a riot?"

Just don't wear zoot suit.

[Maven]

Althelion: They need less reason than that to riot. Imagine if you were 17, wasn't allowed to date or talk to girls, see movies, watch TV, hang out with your friends, sleep late (at R. Ahrele's they are mandated to be at davening early or be removed from the community), work, work out, read books, man, you'd be more punk than the sex pistols. Religion is only an excuse.
In the US, kids in Boro Park can find outlets for some of this energy (I was amused to find German rap, which is fully understandable to native Yiddish speakers, on my cousins' ipods, apparently it very popular there), and even in the chareidi world of benei berak there are things to do, but man, the Neturei Karta areas in Jerusalem, combine bad living conditions, poverty, hopelessness, you have a scene no different than the banlieues of Paris.

[ah-pee-chorus]

this was not a riot, they were filming the sequel to "haredi mutant ninja penguins" or maybe it was fox new episode of "when penguins wearing rabbit and beaver hats attack".

[Althelion]

"Anger is an energy"

Johnny Lydon aka Johnny Rotten of The Sex Pistols

[alternative childcare]

Mister Apikoros, again with your Nazis? Are you not capable of posting anything to a Jewish site without including your Hitler fetish? If I understand your comment, you are saying you disagree with Hitler about German Jewish soldiers but agree with him about other Jews?

[Ben]

AC, you make a very wild assumption, but it is an assumption nontheless. You are implying that Naturei Karta parasitic sorcerers are Jews. Shame on you!

[Asa]

Ben, I'm with you. AC, you seem to have no problem with the rioters shouting "Nazi!" at those against whom they're rioting.

If they feel entitled to wreak havoc on civilian and official Jews who believe in justice, peace, and progress; if they feel entitled to wreak havoc on Jews whose appearance and beliefs are unlike theirs; if they feel they own the monopoly on world Jewry and Torah... what, exactly, would you call them?

It seems to me that Mr. A's labeling them nazis is at least more truthful than the rioters' calling their victims nazis, since their mindset resembles the nazi mindset. You think you're defending Torah-true persons, but if these are the Torah-true persons, then I'm in the wrong religion.

[alternative childcare]

Ben:
LOL! I don't know if you've ever been in their areas, but its striking how many of them are tall, blue eyed, and with pale blond/red hair. In Yiddish literature they are referred to as the "royte yidden" (and of course, their leader, R. Amrom Blau's wife was French, nee Madeleine Ferraille).
Perhaps what we see here is our legacy from the Vikings, bärsärker chassidim.

(though I would add that I don't condone calling anyone 'vermin', 'subhuman', or 'maggots').

[Bob C.]

Looking at the photo of the chossid dragging a burning garbage can across the crosswalk, I just couldn't help thinking of the front cover of the Beatles Abbey Road album.

[Althelion]

I had that Abbey Road flashback too.

Although maybe The White Album with "Helter Skelter" would be a more appropo Beatles reference.

[MisterApikoros]

AC, you obviously never have been in Marine Corp boot camp. "Maggot" is a term of endearment to recruits from their loving gunnery sergeant.

They're obviously not maggots, and neither are these NK rioters. Maggots aren't parasites. Unlike the NK scum, maggots feed on the dead, not the living.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Althelion: I did a Helter-Skelter parody, but here's something from Abbey Road:

Moishe's Silver Hamsa (apologies: Beatles)

Judah was quizzical; Studied metaphysical
Science in kollel.
Late nights all alone with a talmud.
Oy, oy, oy, oy.

Moishe Edelstein, don't believe in medicine,
Calls him on the phone.
"Can I take you out to the shiur,
Ju- oo- oo- dah?"

But as he's getting ready to go,
A knock comes on the door.

Bang! Bang! Moishe's silver hamsa
Put a curse upon his head.
Bang! Bang! Moishe's silver hamsa
Made sure that he was dead.

Back in shul again Moishe plays the fool again.
Rebbe gets annoyed.
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant
Sce, e, e, ene,

He tells Max to stay when the kehilla's gone away,
So he waits behind
Tehillim fifty times "I must not be
So, o, o, o.."

But when he turns his back on the bochur,
Moish creeps up from behind.

Bang! Bang! Moishe's silver hamsa
Put a curse upon his head.
Bang! Bang! Moishe's silver hamsa
Made sure that he was dead.

P. C. Twenty-one said, "We've caught a frummie one."
Moishe stands alone
Making sanctimonious pitches.
Oy, oy, oy, oy.

Ronn and Veveleh, rioting in the alley way
Say he must go free
(Moishe must go free)
The judge does not agree and he tells them
So, o, o, o.

But as the words are leaving his lips,
A noise comes from behind.

Bang! Bang! Moishe's silver hamsa
Put a curse upon his head.
Bang! Bang! Moishe's silver hamsa
Made sure that he was dead..

Silver Hamsa Ma, a, an.

[justayid]

YL

Zoot Suit Riot

Do it.

[MisterApikoros]

BTW, a hair extension belongs on the back of the head, not the side. Although in the case of this cueballheaded miscreant several extensions would be needed. Plus maybe Howard Cosell's toupee. Howard doesn't need it anymore.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Justayid: I'm not familiar with that song. I hope your enjoyed my Abbey Road selection instead.

[MisterApikoros]

Asa, I didn't call the NK parasites "Nazis." That would have been AC, with his Nazis under his bed and in his head.

However, if the shoe atop the head fits...

[Althelion]

Yosha Koach, Yochanan.

[justayid]

very nice

"I read about Jews, today, oy oy
about a loony man who was hared
and though most Jews were rather sad
I had to slog
having read the blog..

He burnt some garbage in the street
he didnt notice that erev pesach was long past
a crowd of policemen stood and stared
theyd seen his face before, but no one was really sure if he was from Toldos Aharon...

Never mind.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Baruch teheya, Althelion.

[alternative childcare]

Asa: "AC, you seem to have no problem with the rioters shouting "Nazi!" at those against whom they're rioting."

I didn't say that, and as is well known, I equally went after Archie for his anti-Black (well, anti everyone) comments.

I also agree with MrA, I didn't accuse him of calling them Nazis, which he didn't. What MrA said was that he agreed with Hitler that these people, as opposed to the German army veterans, were maggots.

MrA then explained that "maggots" to him is a term of endearment, which I guess I believe knowing that he's from Queens and New Jersey, so I didn't say anything :)

[Asa]

Mr. A: Hey, at least I got you two to agree on something :)

[Yochanan Lavie]

Keep going, justayid. It's not bad.

[Athelion]

Zoot Suit Riot

by a band named The Cherry Poppin' Daddies

Good reference Justayid

[WoolSilkCotton]

++if the shoe atop the head fits...

Posted by: MisterApikoros | July 15, 2009 at 03:22 PM++

Excellent!!

[Yossel]

He may be a rioter, but at least he's well-heeled!

[MisterApikoros]

I am not a Marine (there's no such thing as an ex-Marine, BTW) so I did not have the honor of being called a "maggot" by a Marine gunnery sergeant.

I served, however, back in the 1960's in the US Army, and when I was a raw recruit, I was called lots of names by my DI, as was everyone else. Part of the training, I guess. "Maggot" was probably one, although "you girls" is what most sticks in my mind.

Therefore, I guess "maggot" is a term of endearment to a wannabe soldier. I spent my time in West Germany, and generally had a great time, and thanked Hashem each day that I wasn't in 'Nam.

I don't have a Jewish-sounding name, few people knew that I was Jewish, and those who did could care less. One exception: The captain was Jewish, and those soldiers who tried to use their ethnicity to get better duty got screwed. He eventually found out towards the end of my tour of duty, after I made sergeant.

Back to the issue at hand. I have very little use for people who try to game the system at the expense of others, especially when those who do don't believe in the system to begin with. Sure, in late 19th Century Poland, when Jews were truly Auslanders in a country which by and large hated them, you don't necessarily cooperate with The Man. But this is Israel! They went there voluntarily, get all the benefits of living in a social democracy and then some, then bite the hand that feeds them.

On another note, I don't consider American Jews who live here in the USA as living in the "Diaspora." This is our home. Let's save that term for Jews living in Poland, Lithuania, the FSU, and other countries which are still anti-Semitic. Just a hobbyhorse of mine.

[alternative childcare]

So then, MrA, if maggots is a term of endearment, are you now a supporter or opponent of these rioters? (couldn't resist).

[WoolSilkCotton]

Mr. A, just take a look at these lunatics. Their minds and wardrobes are still in 19th century Poland.

Even if you put them totally in charge in Israel, gave them all the money in the world, and the freedom to do anything they pleased, they would still be paranoid and hostile towards everyone and everything. They simply can't tolerate the notion of not being victims. They work constantly at maintaining the victim mentality. They cannot give up the ghetto.

The typical comments we read each day on VIN, on any given story, supports my theory of their paranoia, ignorance, and hatred of everyone and everything- they even hate each other, as you can see by the nastiness with which they address each other on the VIN comments.

That photo above says it all- the guy's head is literally where his foot should be. And those bizarro sidelocks tell you all you need to know about the rest of his thought processes.