Why God Created RICO

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BISHOP IS DEFIANT ON THREATS
By EDMUND DeMARCHE and LEONARD GREENE

A Brooklyn bishop accused of using his bully pulpit to blackmail legislators over a molestation bill he opposes said yesterday he has no plans to repent.

Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio told state lawmakers that he would close churches in their districts -- and blame them for the shutdowns -- if they backed a bill making it easier for sexual-assault victims to sue local parishes, which was first reported by The Post.

DiMarzio, who made the threats months ago during a legislative breakfast at his residence, said he'd gladly preach the same sermon again.

"This bill is going to bankrupt the church," DiMarzio told The Post yesterday after a confirmation ceremony at a Bay Ridge church where spoke about love and forgiveness. "We are going to close parishes in these districts if this bill goes through. I'm not going to deny that I said that."

The strong-arm tactics outraged several legislators.

One politician was so put off by DiMarzio's tirade that he signed on to the measure as a co-sponsor.

But parishioners in the bishop's home parish said he's doing the right thing. "The Catholic Church is always targeted," said Joe Ramos, 37, a member of The Cathedral Basilica of St. James in downtown Brooklyn. "The bishop's job is to protect the church."

DiMarzio said he would not apologize for his position -- or his style. "I threaten everybody," the bishop said, laughing. "I can't help it. It's the position."

I think a certain church needs to be stripped of its tax exempt status. I also think a certain bishop needs to have an unplanned meeting with some FBI agents.

Both these things should happen at the same time they happen to Agudath Israel of America and Torah Umesorah.

May that day come very, very soon.

[Hat Tip: FGBA.]

Comments

[steve]

This bill is going to bankrupt the church

Amen! The sooner the better! This bishop is openly admitting that there are thousands of cases molestation out there that have yet to be exposed.

[Jim the Catholic]

So much for free speech & freedom of religion. So it's OK for Shmarya to rally people to his cause & make political threats (using his free speech) but when Bishop DiMarzio does it then that is wrong?

What can you expect from a closet anti-religious Atheist who shields teachers who commit sex abuse from penalties that are ONLY visited on the clergy.

I say say punish both. I say you should be able to sue public schools equally with private institutions.

But I believe in fairness & freedom. Unlike some of us.

[Shmarya]

So much for free speech & freedom of religion. So it's OK for Shmarya to rally people to his cause & make political threats (using his free speech) but when Bishop DiMarzio does it then that is wrong?

Freedom of speech does not give one the right to blackmail. And it does not allow one to use his church's tax exemption to do so.

[Jim the Catholic]

>Freedom of speech does not give one the right to blackmail. And it does not allow one to use his church's tax exemption to do so.

I reply: Sorry but it's NOT blackmail to point out THE TRUTH that people will unjustly loose their parishes(but Public Schools are exempt) because of this bill & those who voted for it should be held accountable to the electorate.

The Bishop can't & won't tell people how to vote. But they are smart enough to figure out who screwed them over.

It's perfectly legal & moral. You are free to file a suit. You will fail but you are free to try.

But in the end Free Speech wins & Shmarya loses.

Your only hope is that people are not going to abuse the Markey bill to bankrupt the Church (but clowns like steve show that is not the case).

Yeh good luck with that anti-free speech boy.

[Shmarya]

You're a fool, Jimbo. And in that statement I am being kind – you're really much worse than that.

[face]

Shmarya you are acting very Chardal...Are you a Chardal or a MO?

[The Monsey Tzadik]

I say say punish both. I say you should be able to sue public schools equally with private institutions.

Sure, I do not think there are many people who disagree with that. As I understand it the reason public schools are not part of the window provision is because the objection of another evil organization , the teachers’ union. Who will be dealt some other time.

[Yochanan Lavie]

You overestimate the power of the teacher's union. If you're accused of molestation, you're guilty until proven innocent. If the charges prove baseless, there are zero consequences to the wrongful accuser. I am a teacher, and I wish we had a strong union. We don't.

[yidandahalf]

Jim the Catholic, Please explain your obsession with Jews and the compulsion that keeps dragging you to Jblogs/ Most interesting, really.

[steve]

Your only hope is that people are not going to abuse the Markey bill to bankrupt the Church (but clowns like steve show that is not the case).

Huh? Your Holy Bishop declated that the bill will bankrupt the church, not me. All that means is that there are enough skeletons in your holy church's closet to bring it down. If that is indeed the case, I say AMEN! BTW, I'd rather be a clown than a child molester enabler. At least clowns bring joy and happiness to children, while molesters and enablers bring only pain and sorrow to them.

[Jim the Catholic]

>I'd rather be a clown than a child molester enabler.

Well according to your own logic in supporting the Markey bill you ARE enabling molesters who just HAPPEN to be public school teachers.

Nice.

[steve]

The Lie: The CVA window singles out private institutions, because it does not also remove the 90-day notice of claim requirement for public institutions.

The Truth: The CVA window also permits victims of public entities to avoid the statute of limitations, because claims against public institutions brought under federal civil rights law (42 U.S.C. § 1983) are not subject to the 90-day notice of claim. Felder v. Casey, 487 U.S. 131

The Lie: Jim and his perverted cohorts in the Catholic Church give a rat's ass about public school children.

The Truth: They couldn't care less about Catholic children being molested in their private schools, much less public school children.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Jim: It's blanket statements like that which make good teachers want to quit. Every profession has its rogues, and considering the size of the NYC DOE, it's amazing how few bad actors there are (although one is too many).

[state of disgust]

YL is correct.
If you are accused of molestation in the public school system your guilty until proven innicent and there is little recourse. When your found innocent your lucky if you just get assigned to a different school - but the accusation follows you. It would be great if AFT took a stronger stand on protecting both the accused and those who have been molested.

By the way, the real question here is why a RICO investigation hasn't been instituted against the RCF, etal.

[Jim Catholic]

>The CVA window also permits victims of public entities to avoid the statute of limitations, because claims against public institutions brought under federal civil rights law (42 U.S.C. § 1983) are not subject to the 90-day notice of claim. Felder v. Casey, 487 U.S. 131

I reply: Since when are Federal Lawsuits (which can take decades)the path to "quick justice" which has been the mantra of the Markeyites since the beginning?

>They couldn't care less about Catholic children being molested in their private schools, much less public school children.

I reply: Yeh we get it steve. Ya hate Catholics. You & and unequal time should have lunch with "Bishop" Williamson.

[Jim Catholic]

>The CVA window also permits victims of public entities to avoid the statute of limitations, because claims against public institutions brought under federal civil rights law (42 U.S.C. § 1983) are not subject to the 90-day notice of claim. Felder v. Casey, 487 U.S. 131

I reply: Then why not simply re-write the Markey bill to treat Public Schools & Churches equally in the first place instead of making them unequal in state law?

[Isa]

Regarding:
""I reply: Sorry but it's NOT blackmail to point out THE TRUTH that people will unjustly loose their parishes""

The reason that parishes close is because of a lack of priests that in turn is the reason that Catholic bishops just sent an evil priest to another parish to molest again. The Bishops were caught between a rock and a hard place.Becoming a priest isn't the thing it used to be. While there are Catholic Deacons [ A Catholic Deacon taught my Texas Concealed Handgun class and HE carries a gun 99.99% of the time-only in Texas ha ha] they can only assist the priest.
But now the Catholic Church has been taught a painful lesson.

Jim the Catholic!
Our hate has nothing (or very little to do with the Catholic Church unless it is allied with our own scumbag molesters.

[jacob]

Jim only comments on the occasional bad things which come out in the community. How about commenting on something positive in the community? Why ARE you here?

[steve]

Ya hate Catholics

No Jim, I hate child molesters and enablers. Not all Catholics fall into those categories.

[Equal T i m e]

--So much for free speech & freedom of religion. So it's OK for Shmarya to rally people to his cause & make political threats (using his free speech) but when Bishop DiMarzio does it then that is wrong?--

I don't suppose you could point to a post - ANY post where Shmarya has threatened anyone?

--I say you should be able to sue public schools equally with private institutions.--

You can

This has been pointed out to you before.

--You & and unequal time should have lunch with "Bishop" Williamson.--

You MIGHT wish to tone down the name calling - the prohibition against it is being rather strictly enforced right now, and I hate to see you booted as your arguments (or the lack thereof) make my points, Scott's point and Shmarya's point better than we could inside a dozen blogs

[Equal T i m e]

--Please explain your obsession with Jews and the compulsion that keeps dragging you to Jblogs/ Most interesting, really.--

Better question - how does he know (often inside of minutes) that a thread that mentions the Catholic Church appears?

Take this thread - the title does not even HINT that the Church is involved, but Jim got here 38 minutes after it was put up.

I don't know what he's using (RSS feed....), but I want one.

[Successful Messiah]

"So much for free speech & freedom of religion. So it's OK for Shmarya to rally people to his cause & make political threats (using his free speech) but when Bishop DiMarzio does it then that is wrong?"

Jim, I'm not sure why you are getting so worked up. Free speech permits Shmarya to make dumb statements.

"The Truth: The CVA window also permits victims of public entities to avoid the statute of limitations, because claims against public institutions brought under federal civil rights law (42 U.S.C. § 1983) are not subject to the 90-day notice of claim. Felder v. Casey, 487 U.S. 131"

Wow, you have a funny definition of "truth" considering that the Markey bill would not extend any federal statute of limitation. You remind me of Shmarya.

[Dr. Dave]

I'd rather be a clown than a child molester enabler

Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me!!! (Alice Cooper)

[Dr. Dave]

Yes I know Bart Simpson said it first, but Alice's song rocks!!

[radical feminist]

If the way in which the Church, or any clergy for that matter, creates the structure whereby abuse is allowed to happen and is even fueled then this would mean that, at the very least, they aided and abetted, and seem to have nourished the pathology.

[state of disgust]

RF
Same goes for those in the haredi community. What is worse then aiding and abetting, is the cover-up which flies in the face of the idea that we are "holy" people. Just because someone wears a black hat (or a red miter) doesn't make them or their organization, righteous.

[Dr. Dave]

SoD -

Is black the new red?

[steve]

http://tinyurl.com/mrjaxu

The times they are a changin'! Or perhaps only because this perv doesn't wear a beard and hat and doesn't have the title "rabbi", was he finally turned over.

[Hometown Postville]

Radical Feminist and State of Disgust- You both hit the nail on the head and summarized the pathology of this scourge to a "t!" No denomination labels needed! It hits home whether you are Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, Lutheran.....believe it or not, even Amish. The reactions you are seeing now to the Markey bill are shameful, as some of you stated- they are evidence of prior knowledge of many skeletons in the closets. To save their integrity, whether it be schools or religions, they need to fess up, take the consequences(financial and/or social) and show they have a committment to the future by refocusing on the beliefs that made them strong in the first place. Right now, people are focusing on all the bad apples coming out of the barrels and forgetting there are many good ones still there. Consequences of exposing the disease are that people with good intentions will be scrutinized to the point of interfering with teaching even the most fundamental concepts. Groups will come out of this crisis either deserving of respect for their honesty or go down spiteful and remembered with disdain. If the foundation was weak to begin with, it will eventually crumble. If not, it will grow in character. Isn't that consistent with the ebb and flow of most groups over the ages? Man's weakness made the sin... God is there to help clean it up if the group is worthy of saving, no matter how devastating the damage. Simple Biblical principals- learn from your mistakes.