“It’s a 20th century pogrom,” said…
… a customer at the kosher grocery who declined to give his name, “just without the horses and the houses haven’t been burned down yet.”
Postville Jewish community struggles to survive after raid
By Ben Harris, JTA
Production at the Agriprocessors plant in Postville has been shut down more than a week and it is unclear when it will resume.
POSTVILLE, Iowa (JTA) -- After former Agriprocessors executive Sholom Rubashkin was arrested earlier this month, Rashi Raices joined several dozen members of this town's Jewish community in volunteering the equity on their homes to guarantee his return to face trial.
All told, they were willing to put up the equivalent of about $2 million, according to the judge in the case. The court also received 275 letters from around the world testifying to Rubashkin’s character.
Rubashkin stands accused of a host of crimes stemming from his stewardship of the Agriprocessors meat packing plant in Postville. To much of the outside world he is the public face of a rapacious company that has demonstrated deep contempt for the law.
But to the several hundred Jews of Postville -- home of the company’s main plant and once the largest kosher slaughterhouse in the United States -- Rubashkin is a figure of reverence, a man who built a successful business and thriving Jewish community while performing countless unsung acts of kindness.
“The community cares very much for Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin,” Raices told JTA on Sunday, three days after a federal magistrate rejected the appeals and ordered Rubashkin detained until trial.
“If they didn’t trust him, and if they didn’t care for him, they would not put up their homes,” Raices said. “Do you think if we really thought he was going to run away that we would put up our homes?”
The public offering on Rubashkin’s behalf is all the more noteworthy because it comes at a time of tremendous uncertainty for Postville's Jews. The shutdown of Agriprocessors, which filed for bankruptcy Nov. 4 and hasn’t operated the plant in more than a week, has had deep consequences.
“People for the first time are going on to food stamps and Medicaid and unemployment,” Raices said.
Agriprocessors was the economic engine for the entire region of northeast Iowa, but the Jewish community was particularly dependent. Some 90 percent of Postville's Jews were employed directly by the company, many of them as ritual slaughterers, or shochtim. Even those who didn't often were employed by organizations established to service the community and therefore are dependent indirectly Agriprocessors.
Teachers in the Jewish community school haven't been paid since Oct. 3. Jewish Agriprocessors employees are, by one estimate, 12 weeks behind in their pay. A nonprofit effort has been established to raise money for the Jews of Postville and state assistance is on the way, but in the meantime some families are struggling to heat their homes and keep food on the table.
Their situation has gone relatively unnoticed, even though a massive federal immigration raid in May made this sleepy northeast Iowa town a focus of national interest. Instead, the bulk of news reports have focused on the plight of the largely immigrant work force detained by the federal government and the unsupported families they left behind. Much of the plant’s former non-Jewish work force is now stuck in Postville with dwindling resources, living off the generosity of area churches and dependent on the good will of the city’s residents.
On Nov. 21, Mayor Robert Penrod initiated the process of having Postville declared a disaster area -- a move that is expected to result in nearly $700,000 in state assistance. Later in the day, a notice was posted in the Postville synagogue announcing that help is on the way for those struggling to pay for food and utilities.
“It’s a man-made disaster,” said Aaron Goldsmith, a former Postville city councilman and frequent spokesman for the community. “It’s as if we were hit by the Katrina flood. It doesn’t discriminate. The economic impact of the shutdown has hurt Jew and gentile alike, suppliers, sub-suppliers, the city’s infrastructure and the general morale of the broader community.”
Morale in the Jewish community has been especially hard hit because of a widespread sense among Postville Jews that they have been given a raw deal. Not by the Rubashkins, whose business practices some outside critics blame for the current crisis, but by the media, which many Jews in Postville see as unduly biased against the company, and by the federal government, which is seen as having moved more aggressively against Agriprocessors than against other companies accused of hiring undocumented workers.
That sense of grievance was compounded Nov. 20 when U.S. Magistrate Judge Jon Scoles refused to release Rubashkin on bail, concluding that he posed a “serious risk of flight.” Rubashkin faces substantial jail time for his alleged role in a scheme to defraud the company's bank, as well as a host of charges related to his role in helping procure false documentation for the plant's illegal work force.
In his ruling, Scoles cited a number of factors that made Rubashkin a flight risk, including the fact that Jews are granted automatic citizenship in Israel and that two former Agriprocessors supervisors already are believed to have fled there. He also noted that a travel bag filled with cash, silver coins, Rubashkin's birth certificate and his childrens' passports were found in his home.
His attorneys countered that Rubashkin's financial situation was deteriorating and that he was saving the money to meet his family's needs. They also argued that Rubashkin was tied deeply to the community and his 10 children, eight of whom still reside in Postville, including a mentally challenged son who is said to be particularly reliant on his father.
“Any judge can now say that they will not allow a Jew out just because he is a Jew, because a Jew has the right to run to Israel,” Raices said. “So you know what? Everyone’s hurting themselves out there by not bringing an outcry about that. That is blatant anti-Semitism. And he’s just the first one that’s suffering from that.”
“This past Wednesday was a very black day for Judaism, not just for Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin,” she added. “It was a black day for Jews in America.”
Goldsmith declined to go as far, but he did offer that Rubashkin was the victim of “over-prosecution” and that the judge’s decision was “perplexing.”
While the community anguishes over Rubashkin's fate, it also has more pressing concerns. At the Kosher Community Grocery on Nov. 21, the shelves were noticeably less than fully stocked. In the kitchen, Mordy Brown was slicing onions for cholent, part of the meal he was preparing for the approximately 40 yeshiva students in Postville.
Brown said the store is extending credit to some families short on funds and that cash flow is “very low.” Some meat remains in stock, but last week’s order, Brown said, is going to be the last for a while. He predicted the shelves would be empty in three days.
“It’s getting really tough,” Brown said.
Meanwhile, at the packing plant, all was quiet. Handwritten signs posted in the window announced more bad news: No work on Sunday and Monday. A court-appointed trustee was due Monday in Postville; the town is hopeful that checks will be issued soon thereafter.
But there are few illusions that Agriprocessors can recover as a going concern. Virtually the only hope for the future of the Postville Jewish community rests with the plant’s purchase by another company.
“I don’t know that the name Agriprocessors can be resurrected,” Goldsmith said, “but I think the plant can be resurrected. There just might be too much baggage with the old name.”
Talks with investors have been under way for months but no deal has been announced. Bernard Feldman, the company’s recently appointed chief executive, submitted an affidavit to the court claiming that he expected “such negotiations will be fruitful [and] completed in the very near future.”
In the meantime, the community languishes in uncertainty. And while the worst of the humanitarian crisis will likely be avoided through state assistance and outside donations, the intensity of the anger remains.
“It’s a 20th century pogrom,” said a customer at the kosher grocery who declined to give his name, “just without the horses and the houses haven’t been burned down yet.”
There is a lot wrong with this piece. Rashi Raices works for Chabad. The bank account for her organization was allegedly used to commit bank fraud.
The JTA does not mention this.
Aaron Goldsmith is a close confidant of Sholom M. Rubashkin. Mordy Brown – a good man by all accounts – is employed by Rubashkin. The kosher store is owned by Rubashkin. Its bank account was allegedly used to commit bank fraud.
Again, silence.
Postville's property values have plummeted. The homes offered up for bail are worth much less than their assessed values. A Jewish homeowner is in effect hold a piece of property that is almost worthless for him. If the plant does not reopen – or if no kosher slaughter takes place there – homes worth $60,000 pre-raid may sell for $30,000 or less – and that is if there are any buyers.
In other word, putting up their homes for Rubashkin is a risk, but that risk has context. The JTA misses that context.
Postville's mayor is credited with "initiat[ing] the process" to have Postville declared a disaster area. No mention is made of the mayor's refusal to do this, the pressure brought to make him relent, or the failure of the city to act in so many other ways.
And no word of the food sent to these Jews by non-Orthodox Jews.
There is more. I'll deal with the most important miss in a future post.






How many of these Jewish starving community members were drinking with Sholom after his first release? How many houses and farms have the Jewish community purchased? Funny how they would NEVER integrate with the community till now. Seems this community will eat up any pity story and be used as pawns for their benefit. Why doesn't Sholom open his house and his money bags up at Kosher Hill? It's bad enough we get sucked into all of this but know the churches (out of the goodness of their faith) have included surrounding towns to clean up our mess.
Posted by: concerned for the Postville area | November 24, 2008 at 04:49 PM
Well, if so many Jews who were indicted and scheduled to be tried did not previously flee the country to Israel and some other countries we do not have extradiction treaties with, the government would have no cause to claim this man presents a flight risk.
Posted by: FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican | November 24, 2008 at 04:56 PM
They should save the "20th century pogrom", it might become valuable one day given that it 8+ years into the 21st century.
Posted by: | November 24, 2008 at 05:06 PM
Do the words tempting fate mean anything? With Iran building a bomb and anti-semitism on the rise, whining about getting caught in crooked business dealings is a bad idea.
Posted by: Yos | November 24, 2008 at 05:31 PM
There are many members of the OJ community and Lubavitchers that feel very bad about this mess but are not willing to cry antisemitism or pogrom. Yes the Rubashkins were great supporters of Chabad institutions and people in need. But that does not exempt them from the law. They knew after PETA and the EPA mess that they were targets but acted like fools. They knew the unions were targetting them. But they acted like Brooklyn butchers and not the managers of a $100 Million dollar business. They screwed up and they are taking many wonderful sweet people Jew and non-Jew down with them.
No one has had a house burned, no one B"H has been killed a or other horrible events associated with the pogrom. I have not yet read or scene one word of remorse or accountability for the mess there from Agri or its owners. In May they could have done something positive and real but instead they laughed at the world when Aaron removed Shalom yet he was still in charge. Hiding behind war on kosher petitions, protest for kosher, and such reminds me of how the italian community in NY protected the mob. Are we worshipping a Jewsih John Gotti?????
It is easy for folks whose who existence depends on agri to cry foul, and perhaps there is some anti-semitisim. Laws were broken, rules were bent lives are being ruined.It is painful and terrible. we are seeing evil words written and people divided. But not once did AGri say we will change, we will improve. It is time for real owner to take this place over and run it as a responsible 21st century business. It is time for the kosher certification agencies to pull their heads out of the sand a look at the entire Torah when being involved in a plant.
Frum Yidden we are lucky to be here in the US, we a lucky to be able to work and live in places like Iowa. My family was slaughtered in pogroms and I find it sad to throw that word around so easliy for the Postville mess, it is smear on the memories of the Lubavithsrs that died in the Gulag and in the camps and at the hands of the Cossacks and Communists. The children of Postville are still learning Torah and no one is carting young men off to the Russian Army. We are in the 21st century and lets face this crisis by Living int the Times.
Posted by: concern jew 2 | November 24, 2008 at 05:57 PM
they are barely jewish anymore...so they need to quit their bitchin...no one cares
Posted by: uncle joe mccarthy | November 24, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Your blind hatred of Chabad knows no limits. Somehow you divined that the author of the "pogrom" statement is Chabad. Harris referred to him as an unnamed customer. Anyway, how would the Chabad affiliation been relevant and how do you differentiate this from the way **your** blog would have been quoted in Der Sturmer as the blog run by "the Jew Rosenberg"?
Shame on you.
Posted by: john | November 24, 2008 at 06:11 PM
The judge might have sufficient reasond to keep Rubashkin in jail, but bringing Israel into consideration does smell bad.
I wonder whether or not he judge allows any american of German origin on bail? Germany also offers citizenship to all Germans. And what about Spain and host of other countries.
This judge does look like a guy who has special rules for the Jews. That is called anti-semitism in my book.
Posted by: Ben | November 24, 2008 at 06:12 PM
Such utter ignorance... Open thine eyes. Stop spreading false rumors, unjustifiable self pity and self proclaimed anti-semitism. How utterly embarrassing!
A Pogrom? Oh, Please!
We've all heard enough of this blind, ignorant, juvenile denial.
G-d's people are NOT an ignorant people.
You are in America as Americans. For G-d's sake, act like it!
Integrate! You behave as if the rest of the world is so unworthy. The same world who is reaching out to help you. How utterly ungrateful, thou art!!!
G-d's law and man's law must be respected! People and animals must be treated humanly, and especially in Agri's position, spiritually. You mustn't cheat nor steel nor lie. Why? Because the Torah says so.
After all this... As a jew, If you honestly feel you're being persecuted... As a jew, if you feel no responsibility... As a jew, If you cannot see the difference between right and wrong... As a jew, If YOU don't feel American in America due to you own self inflicted isolationism, then there's obviously no reason to remain here, is there? Return to the Homeland. At least there you'll find solace in YOUR own community.
(This isn't meant as racism, only as an appeal at rational common sense.)
Posted by: Just a Goy | November 24, 2008 at 06:19 PM
There's NO anti-semitism in this case the Rubashkins had no regard for the law and that's why they're in trouble.
They could have cleaned up their act after they knew they were being watched but they choose not to.
Why?
Moreover these Haradi often run to Israel when they're bad so they're flight risks.
Posted by: Simon Rose | November 24, 2008 at 06:28 PM
anti-semitism??!! Progroms??!!
Ha!
It is HaShem who is doling out the punishment left and right!
HaShem hears the pleas and the lamentations of the abused workers!
Hashem hears his name taken in vain when an animal suffers needless pain and suffering when it is shecht!
HaShem hears all and sees all!
HaShem sees Treif being sold as Kosher and consumed by frum Yidden as if it is Kosher.
In the old days a lightning bolt would kill the wicked
Now it is the agents of the government that act as the 'arm' of HaShem.(I suppose also like the old days when foreign kings would deal out punishment)
Now, tonight, we learn another arm of the government is planning further prosecution!
HaShem also sees 'idol worship'[Rebbe Worship]a horrible sin.
Posted by: Isa | November 24, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Judge Scoles made the decision not based upon whim, but upon evidence and arguments by Council, offered in a court of law.
His words in part from the Order; "The evidence against the Defendant, however, would appear to be substantial. Not only have the transactions left a paper trail, ......." seem to fit the law regarding this situation (18 U.S.C. § 3142(g)).
Posted by: IowaKen | November 24, 2008 at 07:12 PM
I agree with many of the posts. There are laws in America as there are in any country. The Rubbishcans think that they are above the law. Funny, the same Postville Jews that cry anti-semitism by the government will be the first to have their hands out to get government money. P.S. that's "my" money that will be helping these people after the Rubbishcans have created this mess. I guess law biding honest citizen always get stuck with the bill, even someone like me who is not Orthodox and therefore morally inferior to the Holy Chabad and the Rubbishcans!
Posted by: libby in the hood | November 24, 2008 at 07:38 PM
Isa- I agree!!!!!! What type of example is Chabad trying to show? Me the goy is often seen as bad. I'm a Noahide and must look to the Orthodox Rabbis for spiritual adviice.What type of advice will I get? Does a hasid care about me enough to give me sound spiritual dirrection? I try to be a TOG - Torah observant goy. Does anyone care that I look to the Chosen but what am I seeing? Will a Postville Jewish family invite me to Shabbos? Can I go to Shul and dance with Israel? People like to call my neighbors anti-semites. Who is the real anti-fraction here? Does anyone come together out of LOVE as children of the one G-d? Questions,Questions,Questions. I want answers not roadblocks!!!!! Shalom from Nathan the Noahide.
Posted by: Nathan | November 24, 2008 at 08:05 PM
Ditto to Simon Rose, JAG, libby, Isa, Uncle Joe, CJ2. My grandfather lived through actual pogroms in what was then Czarist Russia (now part of Ukraine). These Rubbishmen are whining about a situation they created themselves. It's a self-inflicted "pogrom."
In the words of Dr. Evil: "Boo-frickety-hoo!"
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 24, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Nathan: You'd be welcome as a guest in my synagogue. Keep the faith!
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 24, 2008 at 08:13 PM
Yochanan:
Are you in charge of the choir at your shul? Loved your Dayenu bit!!
Posted by: nachos | November 24, 2008 at 08:34 PM
Just a Goy said ...
"Return to the Homeland."
You mean, return to Monsey???
Posted by: state of disgust | November 24, 2008 at 08:43 PM
Yes Yochanan,
It is only natural to invite Nathan to your synagogue.
"Birds of a feather..."
And now this:
The government in my opinion is acting senselessly. They are shooting themselves in the legs. Do the math.
Don't go on telling me how silly and ignorant I am. I already know how great I am. God loves you too. Don't be jealous...
Posted by: nachman | November 24, 2008 at 08:49 PM
God loves you too, Nachman. If the gov't doesn't prove its case, Mr. Rubashkin will walk. That's the rule of law. He'll have his day in court. However, where there's smoke, there is usually fire.
Nachos: Glad you liked it. My shul has no choir, but I am often shaliach tzibur. Not that I am worthy, but I know the nusach and have a pretty fair voice.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 24, 2008 at 08:58 PM
The Agri record includes: foul enviromental violations, thousands of wage violations, obnoxious child labor, slum lords, identity theft, bank fraud, hiring undocumented workers for profit. I think I missed a few. Its not a religious issue the actions of this company and its ownership are morally repulsive. Why would anyone buy a product from an exploitative company like Agriprocessors. Regardless of religon the owners and managers need to be held accountable to our laws.
I think the religious question is whether the orthodox group treats Palestinians in a like manner. Like most of my neighbors I have always been a supporter of Israel. Perhaps I have been to close minded. We have seen our share of exploitative ministries, but the number of "Rabbi's" associated with this mess is unbelievable.
Posted by: 6th generation Iowan | November 24, 2008 at 09:28 PM
There are many questions, few answers. For instance, Why haven't the "several dozen" friends of Rubashkin put up their homes to raise money to feed the hungry (Jews and non-Jews) in Postville? Is there something in the Torah that allows malevolence towards employees? I'd be happy to read answers.
Posted by: Turkeystone | November 24, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Shmarya:
There is a lot wrong with this piece. Rashi Raices works for Chabad.
On this basis there is everything wrong with your blog. You work against Chabad specifically and Orthodoxy in general. One difference, not many people it would seem are prepared to pay you.
Posted by: Isaac Balbin | November 24, 2008 at 10:28 PM
- Yochanan, I hope you had an opportunity to read my humble thanks for your encouragement and guidance. You are truly a great man who recognizes mankind as a whole, attends an enlightened shul with a rebbe who heart is full of love, leading his congregation to true enlightenment.
Archie has enlightended me, as to the Chabad movement - it has not had any leadership since the passing of their grand rabbi many years ago. And describes the movement as completely dysfunctional with people just acting as they please. A rational explination for their irational behavior.
- Nathan, you'd be wise to seek Yochanan's guidance. I too find myself in your shoes, seeking a life lead by the Torah. I have begun reading articles and teachings in reference to Halachic conversion, as Yochanan has lead me to.
Given what I have read so far, embracing Orthodox Judaism is the only true way of an observant means, via Halachic conversion.
Refer to these links for a brief introduction:
http://www.geocities.com/orthodox_conversion_to_judaism/Article_YHerskowitz.html
http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=1422
http://www.halakhicconversion.org/articles/article5.html
http://groups.msn.com/judaismfaqs/convertingtojudaism.msnw
http://www.rabbis.org/documents/Comprehensive%20and%20Final%20Geirus%20Policies%20and%20Standards%20Protocol.pdf
And of course, there's much, much more...
Perhaps Yochanan (and others) could suggest a source for a specific Halachic study.
My problem, my nearest shul, is reformed.
BTW, I'm a divorced dad (not by choice). Conversion for me is not motivated out of marriage, only by my heart, as well as my daughter's life, future, well being and enlightenment.
Posted by: Just a Goy | November 24, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Shmarya,
I just tried to post a response, but was flagged for being a potential spammer and was told the post would be held for review…
Was it the links I included in my post, verbiage, what...?
Posted by: Just a Goy | November 24, 2008 at 11:22 PM
> 'You mean, return to Monsey???' - state of disgust
Perhaps a bit further east!
Posted by: Just a Goy | November 24, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Another new addition to Rubashkin's legal team. He's fighting that the bankruptcy proceedings should stay in NY
http://www.lawyers.com/finkgold/jsp2140041.jsp
Kevin J. Nash
Member
Email: kjnash@finkgold.com
Practice Areas: Bankruptcy; Debtor and Creditor Rights; Commercial Law.
Admitted: 1984, New York and U.S. District Court, Southern and Eastern Districts of New York
Law School: Fordham University, J.D., 1983
College: Bucknell University, B.A., 1979
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/nyregion/03wage.html
He's currently defending a high profile client in a case similar to Rubashkin's.
Posted by: | November 24, 2008 at 11:58 PM
nachman,
Chill my brotha, chill...
Posted by: Just a Goy | November 24, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I've said it before and I say it again.
Jews of America (and Diaspora) Liquidate the exile before the exile liquidates you.
Come Home! After nearly 2000 years of cruel exile you have your own Land (albeit far from perfect).The anti- semitism in the Diaspora is growing more and more severe.
It is Hashem's message to leave the exilic cemetries and return to the real mother-Eretz Yisrael
Posted by: Choni Davidowitz | November 25, 2008 at 01:18 AM
Note to "Just a Goy" about Shmarya's crappy spam filter. Break your message into smaller chunks and post each one individually. It should work. I think it flags off the size and the number of links.
Jerome
Posted by: Jerome Soller | November 25, 2008 at 01:32 AM
Your blind hatred of Chabad knows no limits. Somehow you divined that the author of the "pogrom" statement is Chabad. Harris referred to him as an unnamed customer. Anyway, how would the Chabad affiliation been relevant and how do you differentiate this from the way **your** blog would have been quoted in Der Sturmer as the blog run by "the Jew Rosenberg"?
I changed the headline.
But the fact is, the Jews f Postville are either Chabad (the vast majority), or associate with Nitra (Rabbi Wiessmandl).
The Nitra Jews often speak little or no English. They are disinclined to speak with the press. And it is very unlikely any one of them would have been able to say the sentence as written.
Posted by: Shmarya | November 25, 2008 at 02:12 AM
In the Torah, G-d commands, "You shall eradicate evil out of your midst."
The Rubashkin Crime Family, unfortunately, is an evil in our midst.
What's currently happening, is in conformance with G-d's command, nothing more.
Posted by: sage | November 25, 2008 at 06:28 AM
Everyone talks about Postville's mayor. If it were not for the churches in the area or Jeff Abbas prodding him to do many things like declaring Postville and economic disaster it would not get done. He is not a smart enough man to figure this out on his own.
Posted by: State of Postville | November 25, 2008 at 06:44 AM
JAG: Thanks. I am not such a great guy, but I appreciate it. I don't always do what God wants me to do.
There may be an Orthodox congregation in Cedar Rapids, or another big city in your state. You could perhaps try to correspond with them. They might require some face time, but I'm sure you can do much of your studying online and through Amazon.com books.
Don't be discouraged if they seem offputting at first. They just want to weed out the insincere. That's SOP.
Remember, Jew or Goy, God loves you and has made you in His image.
Chabad has some good individuals, and the late Rebbe was a great (although not perfect) man. But the movement has gone south since he died, and Rubbishcan is a disgusting travesty. I pray that they get back on track an do the good work that movement used to do (mostly with education).
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 25, 2008 at 06:52 AM
Yochanan:
If they get back on track, what will you do for new material?
Posted by: nachos | November 25, 2008 at 07:02 AM
as far as feds concerned whole kit and kaboodle clan chabad orthodox Rubashkin on and on and on might as well be Amish who cares? but country bumpkin gypsy bunko artist check kiters--now got their attention
Posted by: StillNotShmarya | November 25, 2008 at 08:22 AM
- Yochanan, none of us are perfect, least of all, me! But there's no question, you're a good man, and anyone who points others to enlightenment is doing good, by G-d's definition.
I don't distinguish all Chabad as dysfunctional, I know there are those who do have their heads screwed on right. But you have to admit, Archie's explanation is not too far off the mark.
Perhaps they could be defined as yet another lost tribe, trying to find their way home.
And to end a bit of confusion, I'm not in Postville nor Iowa...
- Jerome, Shmarya must have some sort of means of preventing his site from being abused - I understand. This was the very first time this has happened to me, and I've posted many lengthy responses... I believe it must had been the 5 links included in the body of my post.
- Choni Davidowitz, do you really believe what you are saying? Please open your eyes, and consider - Israel isn't what it is without the assistance of Americans. Don't be so quick to dis' us.
You'll find imperfection every where... even in Israel. Don't be such a defeatist.
Posted by: Just a Goy | November 25, 2008 at 08:55 AM
- Yochanan, one more thing - you're d-mn funny, as well! You bring humor where there is little - warming hearts and minds, making bright smiles while opening eyes.
You should be your shul's cantor!!!
Humor is a great vehicle for getting one's point across, and the best medicine to boot ;-)
Posted by: Just a Goy | November 25, 2008 at 09:09 AM
The "Pogrom!" schreiers have never been on the receiving end of anti-semitism or they would not carry on this way. First off they live in a Jewish bubble and they are far removed from the shoah so they dare to defile the victims past and present in such a dangerous way. They do not know what anti-semitism is beyond trotting out the card now and then when it suits their vulgarities. This will come back to kick them in the teeth; G-d forbid the rest of us poor souls get yanked into it.
Posted by: yidandahalf | November 25, 2008 at 09:18 AM
There are also some Gerrer chassidim in Postville.
And didn't they attract some Lubavitchers because there is a yeshiva and the real estate is cheap?
Posted by: Archie Bunker | November 25, 2008 at 09:46 AM
Yochanan:
If they get back on track, what will you do for new material?
Posted by: nachos | November 25, 2008 at 07:02 AM
Good question. Unfortunately, there are still more foibles to provide fodder for this blog and my satirical parodies. BTW, not all my parodies are Rubashkin related.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 25, 2008 at 09:58 AM
but country bumpkin gypsy bunko artist check kiters--now got their attention
Posted by: StillNotShmarya | November 25, 2008 at 08:22 AM
That got MY attention! What a great turn of phrase. And try saying it 3x fast :)
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 25, 2008 at 09:59 AM
JAG: Thanks for the kind words. Wherever you're located, try an Ortho synagogue. A Modern Orthodox one would probably be more open to prospective converts, but you never know.
BTW: You're right about Israel. America is her only friend, and has been good to the Jews. As our religion teaches us, miracles may happen but one shouldn't rely on them. Therefore, friendship between the 2 nations should be culitvated.
I do in fact function as the de facto cantor of my shul.
Yid& 1/2: Jewish miscreants cry anti-Semitism the same way that African American wrongdoers and their cheerleaders cry racism. It is not only inaccurate, it demeans the actual victims of such crimes. If every jerk is a Nazi, then the Nazis were merely jerks.
Archie: My guess is that they are schochtim. To the best of my limited knowledge, a schathouse usually employs men of various backgrounds because it's not a common skill set.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 25, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Yeah! What kind of country is this, when a poshut Yid isn't allowed to run around breaking the law whenever he feels like it? It's an outrage! Don't these cossacks realize that arresting someone for a string of felonies creates a hardship for lots of other people? My gosh, what is the world coming to?
Posted by: David | November 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM
AB and YL,
Gerrers in Postville doing what? Shechting? More on this if you can. YL, I get the logic but this is a Lubab operation, no? Always learning or trying to, y 1/2
Posted by: yidandahalf | November 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I am speculating, based on what little I know about how these places operate. It seems logical. Most chassidic groups get along fine, most of the time.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 25, 2008 at 12:50 PM
poor sholom rubashkin yotzeh min ha clal--last wandering levite in nineveh selling aluminum siding and running the short con before the first winds blew and things got shaky--sheriff & co concentrated on their aleph-bets and remembered just enough to bust him
everyone said it was a shame
Posted by: StillNotShmarya | November 25, 2008 at 01:02 PM
BULLS IN A CHINA SHOP
Echos of Ruby Ridge
I think Rebbitsen Raices has a point... there is an element of "overprosecution" going on here.
This sorry script had hundreds of Chertoff's blackshirts decending upon a little town, closing down the local industry and leaving unemployment, despair, devastation and hunger in their wake -- not to mention crisis in the national food supply chain.
ICE bumbled, acted incautiously and callously. To buttress their own position, they must now lean even harder and harder on this prosecution as a matter of self-justification. This compounds one error with another.
One gets the impression that had the operation been under the Justice Department, it would have been performed with more forethought and less collateral damage.
A thorough investigation should have been performed before any charges were brought; this piecemeal, incremental raid-snatch-squeal-charge method is not only unfair to the defendants, but has caused grief, anguish and suffering for many hundreds of entirely innocent, non-complicit, legally-working individuals who have now had their financial security pulled out from under them as a direct result of the incaution and lack of foresight exhibited by ICE.
In this dismal economy, ICE together with any enforcer or regulator must display extra caution so as not to visit economic devastation ongoing business enterprises as much as innocent third parties.
I put it to Chertoff's boys: If you were able in advance to anticipate the need to arrest, incarcerate, prosecute and process many hundreds of individuals that May day in Postville, why did you not at the same time consider what direct and collateral damage such action might cause economically and socially?
Did you really think that phoning the governor's office absolves ICE of moral responsibility for the economic devastation that resulted from its May raid? For the suffering now being endured by all the resultant unemployed? For local business and industry?
You cannot stumble and bumble across the commercial landscape of America like a bull in a china shop, or a posse in hot pursuit of fleeing wetbacks. We a a peaceful, civil country. A few more of these, and your congressional and popular mandates will inexorably weaken.
Certainly immigration compliance and enforcement at Agriprocessors could have been handled with greater forethought, greater finesse and greater concern for the effect of what ICE proudly billed as its largest raid ever. Whatever Mr. Rubashkin may be, he was not a narcotrafficante nor was he an armed robber.
Frankly, I think ICE should have worked with the company, over time, to addresss the apparently widespread false document problems. It did not need to drive the company essentially out of business, which is clearly the effect that ICE heavyhandedness has had.
The only winner out of this whole affair is likely PETA: I am probably not the only one who, after visiting this website so often, has become utterly disgusted with the idea of killing and consuming animals.
Posted by: A E ANDERSON | November 25, 2008 at 04:44 PM
"There may be an Orthodox congregation in Cedar Rapids, or another big city in your state. You could perhaps try to correspond with them. They might require some face time, but I'm sure you can do much of your studying online and through Amazon.com books."
Sorry, but the only community in Iowa that has an Orthodox shul (other than Postville)
is Des Moines. I live there and we have a small, but nice OU shul named Beth El Jacob. And there are tiny Chabad one-family homes in the Quad Cities and Iowa City.
Feel free to check out http://www.betheljacob.org, which is the website of Beth El Jacob in Des Moines.
Posted by: Yaakov | November 25, 2008 at 05:16 PM
Yaakov, although I like my community, I checked it out. it's great to see some positive yiddishkeit in Iowa.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | November 25, 2008 at 06:50 PM