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November 12, 2008

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Where is the CEO at Agri, The Rubashkins and other management at Agri at in all this?

The CEO of Agri is nice and toasty warm in New York.

1) What is the history of water shut-offs in Postville?
2) Is it the norm to shut-off water with 3 hrs notice?
3) How much notice is required by law before the water can be shut off?
4) Is there some discrimination against "newcomers" at work here?

Seems to me Penrod may have opened the town up to a helluva law suit. Someone should call Nate Lewin!

Where is the CEO at Agri, The Rubashkins and other management at Agri at in all this?

Maybe the mayor and the city government should wait for them to act. After all, since everything is Agri's fault, anyone who dies or is injured is on their heads. Is that what you mean?

[Someone should call Nate Lewin!]
--No thank you.

For the record, my involvement is strictly humanitarian. It is my belief, a temporary homeless shelter would have been a better answer. If the water is turned back on at these residences, the City of Postville will once again be forced to pay. We can't take much more. I feel any expenses incurred by the city, on humanitarian grounds, should be the first paid back when his houses are sold.

Please-the city is not the evil here. They have been given bad checks for thousands of dollars. And discrimination is just a laugh as the natives have talked about reverse discrimination for 20 years. The discrimination is the lack of respect and now people are having problems. Yes, it is not the fault of the city it is the fault of criminal activity. You are definitely getting confused about the city's position. Thousands of city dollars have been spent for this plant. We may be on the verge of bankruptcy too just because of being "too supportive." It is a shame that people are having a tough time. Look around lots of people are having tough times in lots of places. As has been stated before this is a man made problem instigated by criminal behaviors and greed. Sort it out. Do we all have to go down?????

"1) What is the history of water shut-offs in Postville?"

It has always been deemed as a last resort and they always try to work with people. It is always a last resort.

"2) Is it the norm to shut-off water with 3 hrs notice?"

No it never has been 3 hours. It has always been 24 hours. Whoever suggested there were 3-hour notices being hung is wrong...period.

"3) How much notice is required by law before the water can be shut off?"

By city ordinance, it is 24 hours. The state abides by the city ordinance.

"4) Is there some discrimination against "newcomers" at work here?"

Absolutely not and it is ludicrous to suggest that.

P.S. It is my profound hope that our city leaders have learned from this tragedy. We must NEVER allow businesses, who have no desire to work with this community, a moment of our time. Our priorities must lie with this community. We will never be able to afford another mistake.

Please-the city is not the evil here. They have been given bad checks for thousands of dollars. And discrimination is just a laugh as the natives have talked about reverse discrimination for 20 years. The discrimination is the lack of respect and now people are having problems. Yes, it is not the fault of the city it is the fault of criminal activity. You are definitely getting confused about the city's position. Thousands of city dollars have been spent for this plant. We may be on the verge of bankruptcy too just because of being "too supportive." It is a shame that people are having a tough time. Look around lots of people are having tough times in lots of places. As has been stated before this is a man made problem instigated by criminal behaviors and greed. Sort it out. Do we all have to go down?????

Sigh.

You confuse what the city government did for AGRIPROCESSORS (and GAL) with what the city government is NOT doing for the displaced workers.

Any water used over the next week or so will cost the city almost nothing compared to what it already has lost.

Past that, there are mechanisms in place to help cities deal with economic disasters.

The problem is, Postville's government did not take advantage of those mechanisms.

No sane person thinks the city caused this disaster.

But it is the city' governments legal, moral and ethical responsibility to help those in immediate danger caused by it.

Is this really so difficult for you to grasp?

I never thought I'd see Shmarya criticize someone like Ray Nagin.

The city government has to bear some responsibility here. Too many people that have been on the council, city and state governments (including a soon to be former state senator from Postville) have spent too much time the past few years making excuses for Agri and buying their "look at what we've done for the city" line. The entire city, government and citizens, have failed by allowing things to get to this point. This mess is a testament to what happens to a city when everyone puts their head in the sand and pretends that its problems will go away on their own.

I hear a lot about \"Bad Checks\" recently, by Agri.

Why can\'t all of the current and past management be arrested, right now, for that alone?

Moshe Rubashkin was convicted of check fraud and sentenced to 15 months in Fort Dix, for having his Textile company being broke and yet Moshe wrote bad checks anyway.

Law enforcement are breaking their head trying to make sure they charge the Rubashkins and make the case stick to win their case in court and \"prove their case\" before arresting the Rubashkins on all their real crimes (what they have charged them with so far, is only the tip of the iceberg and they are still scratching their heads on the rest)?

Here, they have an open and shut case of bad checks, they can arrest all the Rubashkins right now and throw away the key in a very easy to prove case and with no defense at all for the entire Rubashkin crime family.

Excellent idea, Toast.

This will get them used to conditions of incarceration and properly prime them for future time in the "Big House".

jeff, seems like you are quite involved in all this. Are your pockets getting full? Don't hear anyone else having time to "get involved" this much.

Mrs. Out of the Loop -

You may examine my pockets anytime you like.

It's not a matter of "having time" when you follow your heart.

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