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October 07, 2008

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steve

Baruch Hashem, the victims are doing the right thing by going to the police. Let this be a lesson to all pedophiles. The days of sweeping molestation under the rug are coming to an end.

Archie Bunker

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/28/franks_fingerprints_are_all_over_the_financial_fiasco/?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed1

Off topic for this header but I think it appropriate considering this blog blames the Republicans for all the world's evils. The Boston Globe mind you is as far to the left as major newspapers get.

BaltimoreYid

Steve,

I pray that in this new year (5769) that you are right. Here in Baltimore the prosecution of these "Orthodox" pedophiles could use a jump start asap. G'mar chasima tova.

Paul Freedman

Shmarya--I think there's something unhealthy not only with the actions if proven true but your obsessive preoccupation with this.
It's your blog but for me the desire to reveal truth has crossed here into vigilantism and something darker, wallowing in lichluch.

Paul Freedman

At best.

Paul Freedman

Shalom to the chevrei.

yidandahalf

Freedman, you are one of the naive types that pipe up with regularity such drivel as "May this year the rubash-ins do teshuva and turn from their wickedness. Yes, there is hope even for them to repent, blah blah blah". Get out more in the real world and wake up.

Un-Orthodox and Unimpressed

Paul - You aren't the only one who has noticed this. Read some of the other blogs and see the responses when this blog or its owner are mentioned.

yidandahalf

Really? How many hits do those blogs get I wonder.

Shmarya

Shmarya--I think there's something unhealthy not only with the actions if proven true but your obsessive preoccupation with this.

Preoccupation?

Please.

Tell it to those kids as you wish them a happy new year.

Un-Orthodox and Unimpressed

Probably not as many as this one.

Ever notice how many people stop to watch an auto accident? There is an almost universal humon desire to watch someone else's wrecked car, no matter how many accidents we've seen.

How often do we get to watch a person display the wreckage of his life?

steve

Paul,

I guess I'm also guilty of "preoccupation" with the plague of child molestation in the Jewish community. It must be my human conscience that acts up all the time. I know it's difficult for you to relate to people like Shmarya, UOJ, Rabbi Horowitz, myself, and other decent people that have this same condition. Personally, I don't know how anyone can be at peace with themselves and continue to live in denial of what's happening to these poor, innocent souls. Someone like myself who is stricken with human conscience syndrome cannot relate to those that are apathetic. It must be our genetic lineage which we trace back to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who were stricken by this same disease. I am sorry that you are bothered by these posts and comments. You may want to check out other blogs such as YWN or Cross Currents or the Yated magazine, where the writers there clearly do not possess any semblance of a human conscience. They similarly look at this "issue" as a nuisance and would prefer to delude themselves and their readers that everything is fine and dandy. As far as the above mentioned predator being Rubashkin's son-in law, it just further amplifies the corruption of this extended family. Even if he wasn't related to the Rubashkins, this post is extremely important in publicizing his name to protect any future victims. I think it is your preoccupation with Shmarya that leads you to write such thoughtless and careless comments.

Rachel Batya

Shmarya, I'm reading on VIN that Weiss was suspended from his school months ago and hasn't been allowed in the building since. Do you have any information about this?

Un-Orthodox and Unimpressed

I for one took Paul's comment to be about Shmarya's preoccupation with outing exposing every Rubashkin burp that wasn't followed by an 'excuse me' promptly enough.

If he meant Shmarya's preoccupation with child molestation amongst Haraidim, it is only a symptom of Shmarya's fantasy that all molesters are Haraidim and all Haraidim are molestors.

Rachel Batya

Paul, if more people were "preoccupied" with breaking the silence on this issue, there would be fewer victims for you to have to read about.

state of the Jews

Shmarya is not preoccupied by molestation stories. If you want preoccupation check out UOJ. Even YW and VIN have been covering this and other molestation stories in depth. The more that cover these horrid stories the better. Its the only way to flush these perverts out into the open.

Un-Orthodox and Unimpressed

Shmarya, I'm reading on VIN that Weiss was suspended from his school months ago and hasn't been allowed in the building since. Do you have any information about this?

Posted by: Rachel Batya | October 07, 2008 at 07:25 PM

HOW DARE YOU REPEAT ANY INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE SEEN AS FAVORABLE TO THE HARAIDIM! THEY ARE ALL EVIL! THEY HAVE HORNS! THEY CONTROL WALL STREET AND ARE PLOTTING TO RULE THE WORLD THRU THE NEW Z.O.G.!

Shmarya

Shmarya, I'm reading on VIN that Weiss was suspended from his school months ago and hasn't been allowed in the building since. Do you have any information about this?

All I can say is that a shaliach called me Sunday to complain about the Weiss posts and about the Postville abuser post. We spoke cordially for about a half hour, I think.

He told me "the shluchim" think Weiss has been framed.

He said NOTHING about Weiss being removed from the school.

Un-Orthodox and Unimpressed

RB: Shmarya's preoccupation is with destroying the Haraidim because they look like the Habad guys who tossed him out.

Have you seen any sign of his concern over anyone else's scandals? Of course not. He just can't get over the Habad rejection.

I can see where it must hurt. Hell, they take ANYONE! They've even tried hooking ME! They have NO standards whatsoever!

Paul Freedman

Shmarya, yeah yeah yeah it's about the kids.

More like it's about stalking.

But each to their own perspective.


yidandahalf, no, myself I assume that you are Shmarya's natural constituency. I think it's a shame for the Rubashkins to endanger a potentially great commercial and shining enterprise through exploitive labor practices but I hope I never gave the impression to you that I rank their iniquity as that important in the scheme of things in the world we face today, as regrettable as their actions may be. In any event, one way or the other they'll be busted or not.

The Jewish Orthodox world gravitates around cow-slaughtering Messiah-blitzed child-buggers, eh?

Look out your window guys. Tectonic plates are shifting, chaotic S-curves are realigning and one part of what will bring the Jewish community through will be the tools and resources of habitual observance preserved by the people whom you so cavalierly spit and and who, the ultimate sin, ignore you.


Un-Orthodox, it's just too weird in here

Paul Freedman

Rachel: I cannot believe that the proportion of Orthodox educators who are child molesters is equal to the proportion of blog space given over here to that problem. There is a presumption of innocence in the courts--true, not in private speech, but for me the posting prominently of the charge against the Rubashkin in-law with a picture is disturbing--that's my reaction.

Shmarya

Shmarya, yeah yeah yeah it's about the kids.

More like it's about stalking.

No, Paul. It's more about your bias, more about your ignorance, more about your inability to see or care, and more about your assholery.

steve

It's your posts that are disturbing. That picture needs to be plastered all over Albany, including the State House where they need to enact legislation NOW to protect our children from these predators. Paul, you can go on pretending that all is well in the Orthodox community and you can continue living in your own la la land of denial. Sleep well.

Paul Freedman

As a secular Jew otoh I would not want a monopoly on Jewish thought in ultra-Orthodox control, for say Agudas to be the last word in Jewish culture--this is not the case. Diversity is good even if we assume absolutes when we consider this or that problem in the world--we don't want even our own convictions to be the very last word imo--this is America. And for those kids who want to leave orthodox communities choices and assistance is OK. But mug shots of family members, I don't think this is about justice.

Paul Freedman

Shmarya, the nice thing about you is that inevitably your adolescent urge to defame is given full throat. As if you ever leave the precincts of your own abreactional feces with your shitty little pretensions to justice, your shitty little pseudo punditry, your shitty territorial snottiness, your fundamental ignorance of, well, science, philosophy, oh, Chassidus, oh Hebrew. What would Jews do without you?

Paul Freedman

But yes, steve, yidenahalf, Shmarya is on the case for you.


Paul Freedman

steve, um, child molestation is illegal, which is why police spokespersons and not Shmarya are leading the investigation--you wish Albany to do what exactly...

Shmarya

Shmarya, the nice thing about you is that inevitably your adolescent urge to defame is given full throat. As if you ever leave the precincts of your own abreactional feces with your shitty little pretensions to justice, your shitty little pseudo punditry, your shitty territorial snottiness, your fundamental ignorance of, well, science, philosophy, oh, Chassidus, oh Hebrew. What would Jews do without you?

Let's see. You accused me of "stalking" the Rubashkin family, did you not?

And, at the same time, you minimize the problem haredi child abuse.

There's only one of rolling around in his own feces, Paul, and it isn't me.

Go wish yourself a happy new year.

Shmarya

you wish Albany to do what exactly...

Wholly ignorant. But still spouts off. classic.

Paul Freedman

But yes, as I noted to UnOrthodox this is Shmarya's blog and ultimately courtesy suggests that we leave him to it.

Shmarya

But yes, as I noted to UnOrthodox this is Shmarya's blog and ultimately courtesy suggests that we leave him to it.

Adios. Wallow in peace.

Paul Freedman

Shmaya, do you think that it isn't illegal to be a child molester? What should Albany do. You remain a snot-nosed whelp whose raison detre is Jew hatred. But enlighten us spouters oh man of wisdom, oh rabbi of dunces, oh nothing of nothing, oh malamed of the masses, what should Albany do to increase the criminal penalties for child molestation?

Paul Freedman

Shmarya, were you ever Chabad.

Were you ever Jewish?

Did you ever learn to read Hebrew?

The interesting thing is that the regular readership of this blog given its author becomes self-selecting.

Paul Freedman

You poor dumb fat pathetic fuck.

Shmarya

Shmaya, do you think that it isn't illegal to be a child molester? What should Albany do.

I'll leave the details to steve and others. But there has been a fight for years now to get religious schools to have mandatory background screening and to make certain religious employees mandatory reporters.

So far, Albany has balked.

Shmarya

Were you ever Jewish?…

You poor dumb fat pathetic fuck.

Make sure to smear yourself all over with those feces, Paul. It becomes you.

Shimon

Shmarya, I would ask that you BE indeed preoccupied!!! I don’t see anybody else opening the closet door and exposing these repugnant scumbags. Every time you reveal and blog about these “Charadim” you are saving a life. G-d forbid that one of these pedophile’s dressed up in a religious costume should have the opportunity to hurt another child.

The post vilifying your efforts made here is worse than “assholery” …. It reveals the acceptance and justification of pedophilia . I question Freedman’s motives for making such a statement that is beyond defensible! Freedman accuses you of “Something darker, wallowing in lichluch.” Excuse me Paul…. But please educateme, what is darker than sexually abusing a child? What is darker than hiding behind a veil of religiosity to cover up a revolting avera? Only a sick perverted creep would infer such a thing.


Shana Tova….

LocalYokel

I don't know which "shliach" you spoke to, but the locals do NOT think he's innocent. Most of the students in the schools run by the shluchim ARE children of shluchim, especially at the mesivta.

He has NOT been allowed in the schools or to be affiliated with Chabad of the Capital District since the accusations arose and the investigation began a few months ago.

I know for a fact that at least one victim is a Lubavitcher, if not both. And the majority of Lubavitch families here ARE shluchim.

Are you sure the "shliach" you spoke to wasn't, "Y"?

We live here, dealing with this, Lubavitch, not Lubavitch, etc. While I can't speak for every Lubavitcher here, ea. one I've spoken to in the past week as well as a couple other frum families here know what we've seen, and know what we're dealing with. We've seen accusations come from upstanding, amazing families here. (And here "upstanding" isn't defined as $$$$) We've seen a months long investigation with 2 victims coming forward to press charges. We've seen the school and larger chabad organization here immediately, albeit quietly, cut ties as soon as the accusations arose while awaiting the results of the investigation and cooperating with authorities.

This sickens all of us here. We may not have a lot b'gashmiyus here in Albany and we may not even have as much b'ruchniyus here as we'd like, but we have solid, good people who have souls and a good moral barometer and won't put up with garbage, just like this sicko nor the ridiculous conspiracy theories surrounding this.

Shmarya

Not an Albany-area shaliach. From another area. Has close contact with many other shluchim worldwide – including Krinsky and the shluchim office.

In other words. LocalYokel, Chabad is saying different things to different people.

Shmarya

Now, what would you say, LocalYokel, if it turns out Weiss is guilty and had molested previously elsewhere – say, in Postville – and Chabad covered up that molestation?

Shmarya

Paul –

Even though I am really pissed off at you, I don't want that anger to carry past the surface.

Gemar hatima tova. Have a good, healthy and happy new year – for real.

Rachel Batya

--Rachel: I cannot believe that the proportion of Orthodox educators who are child molesters is equal to the proportion of blog space given over here to that problem. --

Paul, it's not the proportion of Orthodox educators that's at issue. It's the sheer numbers of children who have been victimized in a community that has been too afraid to speak about it.

If you find second-hand accounts of these stories painful and overwhelming to read, perhaps I could find some survivors who would tell you their stories firsthand, with all the ugly details. Then you'll long for the days when all you had to read was a news report about child molestation on a blog.

steve, um, child molestation is illegal

Really Paul? Now go tell that to all the parents of victims that refuse to go to the police and the Orthodox "leadership" that Rabbi Horowitz referred to, that continuously tries to cover up these crimes and to thwart legislation.

--you wish Albany to do what exactly...

Since you have been hiding in some cave for the past two and a half years, I will try to clue you in on what's going on. There has been a bill introduced in Albany by a Jewish lawyer named Elliot Pasik. The bill calls for mandatory fingerprinting and background checks for all prospective private school employees. It also calls for mandatory reporting and the establishment of a sex offender registry. Public school children currently enjoy these protections. Why are our children not afforded the same protection as public school children? The bill passed the State Senate and has been awaiting a vote in the Assembly since June 2007. It has been forestalled there due to an unholy alliance of the Catholic Church and the Agudah. Despite the Agudah's recent denials, they have fought against this legislation tooth and nail.

steve

9:15PM post was me.

meyer

No question. Shmarya is definitely a poor dumb fat pathetic fuck.

http://www.vosizneias.com/21190/2008/10/07/albany-ny-former-teacher-addresses-abuse-accusations-leveled-against-him/

jewishwhistleblower

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=727340
...
Weiss has been suspended, said Rabbi Yehuda Krinsky, chairman of Merkos L'inyonei Chinuch, the educational arm of the Brooklyn-based worldwide Lubavitch organization.

"I would emphasize very unequivocally that the suspension is in no way whatsoever implicating him or an admission or a decision of guilt," he said.
...

Curious Postville Native

I am a Catholic. Most of you are aware of the molestations that have been brought to light in recent years involving the trusted hands of those in the ordained ministry of my faith. Thank you Shmarya, for keeping watch, persistantly bringing this to everyones' attention and for being a voice for the innocent. Hopefully, we all agree, as people of G-d, this behavior has to end, for everyones' sake.

meyer

"VIN News has confirmed that the teacher has been removed from the school a few weeks ago. The Chabad Organization needs to be applauded for standing up, by removing this teacher as soon as it learned of a potential accusation."

But fatty fucker's deep bias and hatred of Chabad will continue to deny that Chabad would do such. That's why Paul Freedman is so pissed off with Shmarya.

jewishwhistleblower

Might I suggest we put together a list of Chabad related abuse cases?

Shmarya

But fatty fucker's deep bias and hatred of Chabad will continue to deny that Chabad would do such. That's why Paul Freedman is so pissed off with Shmarya.

Let's put it this way, Meyer. I doubt he was really suspended until very recently – perhaps last week, perhaps early this week.

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