Orthodox Rabbi Says Agriprocessors-Paid Junket As Conducted Wrong
The issue, it seems, is…
…lack of full disclosure.
Ben Harris of the JTA reports:
…In the eyes of the company’s critics, and even some Orthodox rabbis, the fact that Agriprocessors paid for the trip rendered the rabbis’ conclusions suspect. Neither of the national council’s two news releases regarding the trip disclosed that Agriprocessors had footed the bill for the rabbis.
“If they’re going and being paid by Rubashkin, then that should be forthrightly disclosed,” said Maury Kelman, a lawyer and Orthodox rabbi who has led congregations in Israel and New York.
Kelman said Jewish law, or halachah, insists that rabbis involved in such matters do everything to avoid even the perception that their judgment could be compromised.
“It’s very important if rabbis are going that things look totally above board, and that it’s 100 percent clear that the desire is to do the right thing and not just the expedient thing,” he said. “If somebody’s being paid, you’re beholden to them. Halachah is very clear about this.”
Lerner rejected the suggestion that the rabbis’ impartiality might be compromised.
“Give me a break,” Lerner said. “To impugn the integrity of 25 people is out of line.”
The rabbis also were criticized for not meeting directly with former workers, who have lodged the harshest complaints against the company. They did, however, meet with one of their advocates, Paul Rael, the director of Hispanic Ministries at St. Bridget’s.
Lerner said his group was expecting to speak with the workers and was surprised to see that none were present for the meeting.
The rabbinic delegation, which dwindled to four for the late-afternoon meeting with Rael, sought to establish itself as a conduit between the church and Agriprocessors to discuss outstanding problems.
Rael told JTA he was “absolutely” ready to open a dialogue with the company. Chaim Abrahams, an Agriprocessors representative, said the company was “considering” the suggestion “in a positive light.”
Regarding past allegations, Lerner said he had asked that a file of worker complaints be prepared and that he would take up the issue with Agriprocessors. But Lerner stressed that the main issue now should be how to move forward.
Rael said he won’t be ready for that until various problems, like employee back pay, are worked out.
“The minute that I got through giving my little dialogue, they said, ‘That’s the past,’” Rael recalled. “I said, ‘Yeah, but the past is what created the problem.’ If their intent is to move forward, I can’t move forward until this issue is totally, totally done.”
I agree that the trip to the plant shouldn't have been paid for (in secret) by Agriprocessors, but Rabbi Kelman did NOT say that it goes against Halacha. Your title twists the facts. Read his comments again. His whole point is that it should have been disclosed. That's all.
Posted by: Nina | August 07, 2008 at 05:41 PM
The junket as conducted was against halakha. That is what he said. It is also what I wrote.
Posted by: Shmarya | August 07, 2008 at 05:56 PM
I changed it to "as conducted" and "wrong," even though what he said and (should have ) meant is "against halakha."
Posted by: Shmarya | August 07, 2008 at 07:03 PM
"Lerner rejected the suggestion that the rabbis’ impartiality might be compromised.
“Give me a break,” Lerner said. “To impugn the integrity of 25 people is out of line.”
Rabbi Lerner - you have studied the talmud where it is stated that Rabbis removed themselves from judging cases when someone involved did them very minor favors. It doesn't matter if it is one person or twenty five, once impartiality has been compromised it is not the same.
I have to admit that it was smart of you to take Gershon Tannenbaum of the Rabbinical Alliance with you. As the expression goes, it takes one to know one, so taking a crook with you might help find others, that is if there was a sincere unfettered desire to do so, of course.
Posted by: Greader | August 07, 2008 at 07:37 PM
Maury Kelman is stating the obvious. You don't need a rabbi to tell it to you.
The secular press should find someone who carries more weight instead of a West Side lawyer like Kelman who happens to have semichah. His leadership has been pretty minor as his stint in Israel was at some tiny moshav that almost no one has heard of. In New York he has been an activist from time to time who is easy for reporters to access.
Posted by: Archie Bunker | August 07, 2008 at 08:40 PM
"Archie", there is so much to legitimately complain about, no need to choose Kelman, a man who is trying to fight the good fight. If he is a lawyer as well as a Rabbi, then maybe his message can carry further, as he has a foot well planted in both the secular and religious worlds. The original article references that there were no workers (those who made the claims in the first place) present to weigh in with the OU. That should be given attention.
Posted by: Nina | August 08, 2008 at 09:33 AM
Just because workers didn't approach the OU doesn't mean that everything is alright. They might not have known about the visit, or might have felt reluctant. I doubt that Agri is a worker's paradise given all the violations it has had.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | August 08, 2008 at 11:45 AM