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July 07, 2008


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Yochanan Lavie

That's the trief meat Agri sells to the goyim.

But Carol Ann, isn't wonderful to serve your fellow man?

(Ask Rod Serling, or Jonathan Swift).

Carol Ann Varley

{Otherwise, one might find a finger or perhaps toe in the meat}

That's the trief meat Agri sells to the goyim.


Looks like Archie has a fixation on Englemeyer. what's with that?


""""Meanwhile, various American Jewish youth organizations joined the boycott of Agriprocessors meat,""""
Otherwise, one might find a finger or perhaps toe in the meat

What a coincidence: the wife of the Agri controller runs the real estate company. How shocking.

Archie Bunker


Meanwhile, various American Jewish youth organizations joined the boycott of Agriprocessors meat, among them B'nai B'rith Youth, Habonim Dror, Ramah, the Union for Reform Judaism, and Young Judaea.

Archie Bunker

Deja vu. When UOJ wrote about scandals involving Young Israel lawyers Steve Mostofsky & Martin Samson, Blogger's parent company Google was threatened with legal action if they did not remove the entry.

Doing this right before a holiday is a stunt used by Kolko's lawyers.


Edge Exclusive

YouTube Pulls Pastor Hagee Videos After Church Copyright Lawyers Demand Removal

Sam Orez
July 7th 2008

YouTube.com, the popular website for uploading videos, has pulled numerous videos of Pastor John Hagee Ministries after the minister’s copyright attorneys requested their removal, The Cutting Edge News has learned. The attorneys asserted the videos constituted copyright infringement, and were otherwise deemed to be private property, ministry sources said. Lawyers quietly contacted YouTube during the days and hours before the July 4 holiday to attract as little attention as possible, it was learned.

This prompt YouTube action comes at a time when the giant Google enterprise is fighting Viacom’s one billion dollar lawsuit over alleged copyright infringement as a result of content uploaded by YouTube users. In February 2007, Viacom obtained a court order compelling YouTube to delete some 160,000 videos which apparently infringed on copyrights. Viacom owns network and cable programming, and digital images such as seen on MTV and Comedy Central are frequently chosen as digital content for YouTube uploaders. Earlier in July, a judge also ordered Google to deliver YouTube user data to Viacom. The court-ordered files encompass 12 terabytes of data. That sweeping order was stayed in an emergency protective order, but YouTube is doing all it can to demonstrate that it respects copyright.

Sources say that Hagee, probably motivated by the recent series of news attacks regarding past statements on the Hitler and the Holocaust, used the Viacom example to demand its own videos be respected.

In a statement to The Cutting Edge News on Independence Day, Hagee spokesperson Juda Engelmayer confirmed, "John Hagee Ministries, through its copyright attorneys, issued a request that YouTube remove any and all copyrighted materials belonging to John Hagee copyrights." He added, "The request was accepted."

Over the past few months several of Hagee’s comments, quotes, and sermons have been posted to various websites and have been used to stir controversy surrounding Hagee’s endorsement of Republican presidential candidate John McCain. Beginning with Hagee’s condemnations of Catholicism, which mired Hagee and McCain’s campaign in a media frenzy, the latest postings depicted an old sermon of Hagee's speaking of God’s hand in Hitler’s evil to bring Jews to Israel.

Hagee and McCain mutually severed ties when the videos and theological viewpoints became a campaign issue and a basis for media headlines.

According to information obtained by The Cutting Edge News, Hagee’s attorneys set forth criteria for videos to be removed by YouTube. These included: "1) Any and all pre-recorded material garnered from works owned and distributed by JHM or John Hagee Copyrights; 2) Any material depicting a JHM or John Hagee copyrighted service or performance of the service or sermon, and 3) Any material that is no longer free use material by having been effectively made into a derivative work using materials mentioned above."

Hagee is holding his annual conference for his organization, Christians United for Israel, later this month in Washington DC. This action to remove his YouTube content may be an effort to stem any more surprises prior to the event.

Archie Bunker

How much time does Engelmayer need?



Agriprocessors spokesman Juda S. Engelmayer said the company and its attorneys were reviewing the paperwork from the federal action on Thursday and couldn't comment on the matter.

A person who worked in the human resource department told authorities that Guerrero-Espinoza would bring them resident alien cards for new job applicants who were to be hired in the beef kill department, one of the areas he supervised, the complaint said.

A week before the raid, Guerrero-Espinoza instructed a group of workers to get new IDs and Social Security numbers in order to keep working at the company, another source at the plant told authorities.

A number of sources said a couple of weeks before the raid that De La Rosa-Loera told them they needed new documents to work at the plant, the complaint against him said. When they got the new documents, they reported that De La Rosa-Loera handed them back but allowed them to continue working at the plant.

Detention hearings for both men were ordered for Monday in Cedar Rapids. Court documents did not list attorneys for the men, and officials with the U.S. Clerk of District Court's office did not know whether attorneys had been appointed.


What do you want, Jacobowitz and Rubashkin are both very charitable people. They were helping each other out. First Rubashkin needed $3M and then Jacobowitz needed $1.4M. One hand washes the other, netillas yadayim.

Hints and Allegations

Many of you know that Agriprocessors and the Rubashkin family were caught up in the Allou Healthcare fraud and that Agriprocessors had to pay $1.4 million dollar judgement late last year for its role in laundering Allou assets.

Hey, this must be another one of those "unproven allegation" against Agri!

state of the Jews

It was probably cheaper and less time consuming for the prosecuter's office to work out a settlement, rather then go to court to prove the money laundering charge.

KoHakavod to FM for breaking this story months ago!


Is it because he was not charged with any criminal wrongdoing that he is only ordered to pay 1.4 million dollars?

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