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February 29, 2008

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unbelievable

so we gona lose the jobs and start cleaning your t.... lol!

unbelievable

so we gona lose the jobs and start cleaning your t.... lol!

Agri Fan

Turbulence! I remain AGRI FAN.

yidandahalf

BTW, his real problem is we can't be bought. He has absolutely no idea what he is up against.

yidandahalf

O.K. clear answer for you. The rubash-in 'empire' is a malignancy that needs to be removed. Bail out while you can. He's going down and he knows it.

der shochet

the bottom line are you really going to be happy if agri is going to make cuts in job and my kids would not have food and clothing ? clear answer

yidandahalf

What true sages the Golem is employing to construct his spin and letters and whatnot. But it's too late! LOL! Nevertheless, it's great to see they have found their way back to this thread. They have become slaves to their paranoia.

Shmarya

I know reality is difficult for you, but try to process:
Agriprocessors has been fined, cited and prosecuted by several different government agencies for real, documented and serious violations of law, health and safety standards.

It has one of the worst records in America.

Add to that illegal tactics used against the union – for which Agri lost a NLRB case and then lost its appeal to federal court – and you have a clear record of poor compliance with the law, abuse of workers and shoddy health and safety practices.

You can't wish all this away with a letter written by Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin's PR man.

Agri Fan

Shmock Read Below

Agriprocessors, Inc. is a viable company that is committed to maintaining the quality of its product both in full compliance with existing rules and regulations of the USDA and in full compliance with the rules of kashruth. Over the past couple of years the employees of Agriprocessors, Inc. in Iowa have resisted attempts by the United Food and Commercial Workers Union (UFCW) to become their collective bargaining agent."
In a telephone interview Wednesday night, Rubashkin said, "The workers are quite happy and have not signed any papers to unionize. That’s the whole point."
He also maintained that OSHA was in the process of revising its list of violations against his company. But his call was received too late to get confirmation from that government agency.
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The OU, the largest certifier of kosher products around the world, does not weigh in on issues like worker safety, the environment, and animal welfare in the plants it supervises. State and federal governments have set up various agencies to deal with all of these issues, said Rabbi Menachem Genack, rabbinic administrator and CEO of the OU’s kashrut division. He added that the OU defers to the expertise of those agencies in those areas. While there is a halakhic basis for fair treatment of workers, he said, the OU relies on the government to provide unbiased and educated enforcement of its guidelines, as rabbinical judgments would be too subjective.
"Our expertise is in kashrus," Genack said. "Fundamentally, all these different areas" — workers’ rights, animal treatment, and environmental concerns — "require attention. But it requires expertise, authority — all that is in place in terms of American law right now. There is not a more halakhic requirement beyond that area of law."
Asked if the OU might be interested in creating a certification similar to the hekhsher tzedek, Genack said that is unlikely because of its confidence in U.S. laws and enforcement agencies.
"There is a [halakhic] requirement to observe the laws of the country," Genack said. "To make sure those laws are properly preserved, we turn to the government."

Agri Fan

See Shalom letter above.

Shmarya

BTW, Rabbi Genack's letter is three years old. Go to the Rubashkin index and read what Rubashkin has been caught doing since then.

Also watch the undercover videos of Rubashkin slaughter.

No matter how many OSHA violations, USDA humane slaughter, health and mad cow violations, court decisions against Rubashkin, etc., these friends of Rubashkin just keep on insisting everything is fine – after all, in their eyes it's all one big conspiracy against Agriprocessors.

No amount of fact, no amount of proof, will change this cult-like behavior.

Shmarya

Oops!

Look here:

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/rubashkin.html

Shmarya

Better yet, look here.

By: Rabbi Menachem Genack
Many people expressed concern about the standards for humane treatment of animals at a kosher slaughterhouse after viewing a well-publicized video of kosher slaughter at the AgriProcessors plant in Iowa, which was released by the animal rights organization PETA. Any slaughterhouse, whether kosher or non-kosher, is by definition a disconcerting, blood-filled and gruesome place. Torah law, however, is most insistent about not inflicting needless pain on animals and in emphasizing humane treatment of all living creatures.
Kosher slaughter, shechita, involves cutting the trachea and esophagus with a sharp, flawless knife. At the same time, the carotid arteries, which are the primary supplier of blood to the brain, are severed. The profound loss of blood and the massive drop in blood pressure render the animal insensate almost immediately. Studies done by Dr. H. H. Dukes at the Cornell University School of Veterinary Medicine indicate that the animal is unconscious within seconds of the incision.
After the shechita at AgriProcessors, an additional cut is made in the carotid arteries to further accelerate the bleeding. This is not done for kashrut reasons, for after the trachea and esophagus have been severed the shechita is complete, but rather for commercial reasons, to avoid blood splash, which turns the meat a darker color. The carotid arteries are attached to the trachea and at AgriProcessors the trachea was excised to facilitate the bleeding.
In the overwhelming number of cases the animal is insensate at that time. However and inevitably, particularly when it is considered that 18,000 cattle were slaughtered during the seven-week period when the video was shot, there was a tiny percentage of animals whose carotid arteries were not completely severed so they were not completely unconscious. Although this is very infrequent, the removal of the trachea immediately after the shechita has now been discontinued.
It should be kept in mind that in a non-kosher plant, when the animal is killed by a shot with a captive bolt to the brain, it often has to be re-shot, sometimes up to six times, before the animal collapses. The USDA permits up to a five percent initial failure rate.
At AgriProcessors and at other plants it supervises, the Orthodox Union is committed to maintaining the highest ritual standards of shechita without compromising the halacha (Jewish law) one bit. The OU continues to vouch for the kashrut, which was never compromised, of all the meat prepared by AgriProcessors,
As I indicated previously, images of slaughter – especially selected images in an abbatoir—are jarring, particularly to the layman. Statements by PETA that animals were bellowing in pain after the shechita are an anatomical impossibility. After the animal’s throat and larynx have been cut, it cannot vocalize.
PETA is well known for the passion it brings to the issue of animal rights, but it is an organization devoid of objectivity. PETA’s comparison of the killing of chickens to the Holocaust is, at a minimum, morally obtuse. So to whom should we turn for an objective view about the situation at AgriProcessors and about kosher slaughter in general? Here are the opinions of some experts:
1. Iowa Secretary of Agriculture Patty Judge inspected the plant. She found the handling of the animals to be humane and commendable. She said, after viewing the shechita, that the animals were unconscious within two to three seconds. She also said that chickens were handled more carefully by the rabbis than by her own “grandmother on the farm.”
2. AgriProcessors is under constant USDA inspection. Dr. Henry Lawson, the USDA veterinarian at the plant, told me that he considers the treatment of the cattle at AgriProcessors to be humane and that the shechita renders them unconscious within a matter of seconds. He determines this by certain physiological criteria related to the eyes, tongue and tail of the animal.
3. Rabbi Dr. I.M. Levinger, a veterinarian and one of the world’s foremost experts on animal welfare and kosher slaughter, called the shechita practices at AgriProcessors “professional and efficient,” emphasizing the humane manner in which the shechita was handled. Dr. Levinger was also highly impressed with the caliber of the ritual slaughterers. He issued his evaluation following a thorough two-day on-site review of shechita practices and animal treatment at the plant. He viewed the kosher slaughter of nearly 150 animals.
4. AgriProcessors has hired an animal welfare and handling specialist to evaluate the plant processes. The specialist was recommended by both Dr. Temple Grandin, a foremost expert in animal welfare, and also by the National Meat Association. In reviewing the shechita process last week, the specialist made the following observations:
· The shechita process was performed swiftly and correctly;
· The shechita cut resulted in a rapid bleed; and
· All animals that exited the box were clearly unconscious.
The OU and AgriProcessors are committed to the Torah principles of humane treatment of animals. At the OU we constantly review our procedures, evaluate them, and if necessary, improve or correct them. We don’t want ever to be wedded to a mistaken procedure. AgriProcessors has been completely cooperative in working with the OU and shares our philosophy.
As Torah Jews, we are imbued with the teachings which require animals to be rested along with people on the Sabbath and fed before the people who own them, and that the mother bird must be sent away before her young are taken to save her grief. These and similar statutes make it clear that inhumane treatment of animals is not the Jewish way.
Kosher slaughter, by principle, and as performed today in the United States, is humane. Indeed, as PETA itself has acknowledged, shechita is more humane than the common non-kosher form of shooting the animal in the head with a captive bolt, for reasons noted above. The Humane Slaughter Act, passed into law after objective research by the United States government, declares shechita to be humane. For Torah observant Jews, it cannot be any other way

Friends of Shalom

An Open Letter to Our Loyal Customers
AGRIPROCESSORS, INC.
P.O. BOX 920, 220 WEST STREET
Postville, IA 52162
Tel#563-864-6070, Fax #563-864-6073
November 14, 2007
Dear Customer:
It has come to my attention that you may have been the victim of a slanderous and patently false campaign by the United Food and Commercial Workers Union. You may have received their misleading flyer entitled “Kosher Alert” or an automated phone call with misinformation about products produced by Agriprocessors. This is part of a textbook campaign by the Union to force a company into submission to unionize a plant even when it is against the wishes of the workers, which is the case at Agriprocessors.
The vicious tactics by the Union not withstanding, when someone makes allegations about practices in our company or the quality of our products, I take it personally. My family guarantees that all our products are safe and wholesome. Let me assure you there are no recalls or food safety issues with our products. We have a moral obligation to produce the safest products for our customers and we take that obligation very seriously. The Rubashkin family has been supplying high quality kosher meat and poultry for over fifty years. Mr. Aron Rubashkin has earned his reputation of trust for Kosher, quality and food safety. That is why consumers across America rely on our product every day.
As you know, all of our products must earn the seal of wholesomeness by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) before they leave our plant. To produce safe food in our modern production facility, we and the on-site USDA inspectors maintain a constant vigilance. We are committed to continue to strive for improvement so that you are guaranteed of the safest and utmost quality products.
It is unfortunate that in today’s day and age of respect for democratic institutions, that the United Food and Commercial Workers Union (UFCW), refuses to abide by the wishes of the workers at Agriprocessors not to organize into a Union We would at any time respect the right of our employees to organize and join a union if they so choose.
We hope that you will now recognize the context of the disinformation that has been disseminated in our community in a brazen attempt to force the workers to unionize. We know, that like all fair-minded people that you will stand with our employees and their right to decide for themselves whether or not to have a union..
Ironically, the UFCW has targeted our food safety record that as you can see below is nothing less than stellar. Here are but a few highlights:
Concerns about Mad Cow disease are simply wrong. We have never had product from any suspect animals leave our plant.
Agriprocessors has had zero recalls in any of our raw, fresh or frozen poultry and beef products since we opened. Yes, not one recall in nineteen years.
The UFCW claims we have excessive reports of non-compliance. In covering the same UFCW report, the Cedar Rapids Gazette interviewed USDA spokesperson Amanda Eamich who was quoted as saying, “…. a plant the size of Agriprocessors might receive 9,000 inspections per year, of which 250 noncompliance findings remains ‘‘ a pretty small percentage.’’
We have always maintained an “open door” policy and encourage our customers to ask any questions that they may have about our products. We rely on our quality control systems and personnel, USDA oversight and independent auditing to assure the products safety and wholesomeness of our products. Rabbis and customers are welcome to tour our plants at any time to see our commitment at work first-hand.
We are proud of our commitment to the principles we established almost nineteen years ago.
The food we produce at Agriprocessors is safe and wholesome. You have my word on it.
We encourage you to ask questions and find out for yourself. To get the facts, visit our web site www.agriprocessor.com or e-mail me at asksholom@iowabestbeef.com.
We are most gratified by your continued support and thank you for helping make Agriprocessors the leader in kosher beef and poultry.
Sholom Rubashkin
Vice President

Shmarya

What Kosher Today fails to mention is the NLRB decision against Agriprocessors for refusing to recognize a vote to unionize and a subsequent Federal court decision reaffirming that.

Kosher Today

Agriprocessor Addresses Safety Concerns
Postville, Iowa... Agriprocessors has promised to immediately correct all of the issues addressed in 39 safety citations, recently issued by the Iowa Division of Labor Services. The agency made it clear that the inspection also included a comprehensive health audit, which the largest kosher meat producer passed. A source close to the situation said that many of the violations were for allegedly violating workplace safety and health standards. Agri's lawyers pointed out that Agriprocessors 'maintains a pro-active program for the safety and health of its employees.' Agriprocessor has been in an ongoing battle with the union who charge that Agri has not allowed its workers to unionize, but in several elections, workers vowed not to become part of the union. A leading union official was recently named the new head of the Iowa Division of Labor. David G. Neil held various union positions including steward, financial secretary, vice president, divisional steward, full-time committeeman, elected negotiator and secretary/treasurer of United Auto Workers (UAW) Agricultural Implement Council. During those years he also engaged in farming. In 1978, Mr. Neil was elected president of UAW Local 838 and president of the John Deere UAW Inter-Corporation Council.

yidandahalf

Do you intentionally spell Postville as Postvile? You people do it consistently. Well, not to worry you won't be there that much longer anyway.

Proud employe at the postvile Club

I would like to say I've been reading all these comments. The reaction of agri and postvile community was against this.....2 immoral, and due to unfair. hate... That is what this comes down to, what is fair. The truth what occurred for 13 years ago ..that mr. shain is absolutely horrible and he had no choice in the matter. And, no, the community was told not to associate with him, they did not see it as oppression because his bad practices, no matter how strange,......... the..... identity... of the community.

yidandahalf

hey fetchi, wus tits? do it to it baby, you ain't got much time left. the golem must have a hangover from hell by now. pretty good purim spiel afterall, nu? LOL LOL LOL

fetchi spitz

you are the real low life you don't work you sit on the internet 24 SEVEN and in some times you like to shaska with the sucky vodka leftover from the postville club

fetchi spitz

you are the real low life you don't work you sit on the internet 24 SEVEN and in some times you like to shaska with the sucky vodka leftover from the postville club

yidandahalf

No, have been busy working. Very busy. Get good and shikker and think about the paradise you work in. Happy Purim.

nachman rosenberg

looks like shein fled the scene just like msales inthe daily news blog ha ha..
regards from Eliot he told me it was acutely the ny times not shein...

La Lapel

Amigo! les femmes de lot de ...a de shain à paris vous tous lisant doit ceci faire attention de lui

Agri Fan

"the goyim in postville just have no clue how lucky they are to have you sorry yids out there"
Sorry truth be told: I didn't mean to offend you with my opion. I'm sorry that it differs from yours. That must be hard for you. I "obviously" was being a bit sarcastic in my post and I what I said was pretty clear

.... Amigo

El rabino Shain estuvo aquí en iowa muchas lágrimas hace yo no recuerda cuando él entró a la barra y violó muchos girs nosotros hicimos el se queja al iowa mejor se queja ellos lo despidieron

migo

zi rabino shein la quatra euio nyuio club postvile kouy sucky vodka
migo dupree

migo

zi rabino shein la quatra euio nyuio club postvile kouy sucky vodka
migo dupree

yidandahalf

don't think i am here to make a good time i need my job s... so if not plumber its LOL the mini goelem needs to see the doctor very quickly

yidandahalf

don't think i am here to make a good time i need my job s... so if not plumber its LOL the mini goelem needs to see the doctor very quickly

yidandahalf

"please stop posting on this forum". PRICELESS. with 6 you get eggroll or a HOT DOG. JESUS, the goyim in postville just have no clue how lucky they are to have you sorry yids out there. with all the yidden in the world and they get the golem and his tribe. if that isn't hysterically funny i don't know what is. what a f*****g purim spiel you must be putting on.

yidandahalf

oh, come on boys. i thought we were just here to have a good time. "substantive and qualitative" contributions never entered my mind. you really are taking the higher road. didn't know you had it in you. "the rubbaskin point of view" - what can one say? who cares?! LOL!
the golem is goin' down and he knows it. tell him to take care of that ulcer. he really has to look after himself better. maybe eat more franks for a start. od'ing on his franks would do a world of good. LOL

Agri Fan

The fact remains that anyone with so much hate can not possibly have a happy life. Their misery will eat them up inside to the point of serious health damage to themselves and their surroundings.

Agri Fan

The fact remains that anyone with so much hate can not possibly have a happy life. Their misery will eat them up inside to the point of serious health damage to themselves and their surroundings.

Agri Fan

– Shamray Shain Don’t tell us what to do; if you want just stop reading what we write. I will repeat what I said before please read carefully. I did not post on this blog to explain the Rubbaskin position on the ...issue regarding ......., I just responded to the hate that was spewing on this site. That’s all. Do you now get it?! if you would’ve asked the question without the venom I would have (maybe) responded by explaining the Rubbaskin point of view, but I have no intention of having a dialogue with ...of the ....All I am doing is exposing you and your fellow hoodlums for what you really are. You don’t care about Rubbaskin and his Employed or any other Socthim***.

Agri Fan

Ms. Shain Please stop posting on this forum. You are not contributing anything substantive and qualitative on USDA issue. The only thing you know how to say and express is hate and Anti-Agri. Your such a H*i*p*p*o*c*r*i*t*e! To this moment you have failed to address the issue!

fetchi spitz

yudel atleast you should have some peteksi by shamry why does he delete your emails it made the bube and zaidy laugh a whole Night you didn't talk against empire chicknes beacuse they gave you the blintzer company in lakewood for shochet so you know what i will talk with heshi maybe will give you to clean after the cows here you have your $ocial $ceurity card ready don't be afraid its $GORNISH asa svhvery arbeit .

shamray - shain
First I’d like to thank all of you filthy stinking haters for showing who we as .....are surrounded with. So let the truth be told: %100 percent of our employed would never stand close enough to you to be able to smell your alcoholic, crack or pot stinking breath. I have seen your home and was horrified at what I saw. Dirty laundry all over the place, cigarette butts (?) and beer bottles strewn all over and overall foul-smelling atmosphere. I really appreciate that you are revolted from us, so you can take yourselves and your families and you havoc wrecking culture, away from us. Please do move away and take along with you all your drugs and your violence.

der shochet

ok promotions i remember back ten years when you stood near my shcita in agri you where very pleased what happened every think the dollar you like the icon $$$$$$$$ di nemst der credit oefzideken der nevulus fin hrav eli noch ven di host gechapet rebbe moshe in atruim plaza nu chap dem telephone in rif rabbe s.

der shochet

ok promotions i remember back ten years when you stood near my shcita in agri you where very pleased what happened every think the dollar you like the icon $$$$$$$$ di nemst der credit oefzideken der nevulus fin hrav eli noch ven di host gechapet rebbe moshe in atruim plaza nu chap dem telephone in rif rabbe s.

...

sya

John&Newburg eggs

this shian is a shame the boiler went down today we tried many time to contact to turn it back on he told us ITS OK IF YOU DO IT Am NOT AVAILABLE

nachman rosenberg

sooner or later all rabonim gona be in our team the rest beis din will be nirbarter $hein $hmeil $hlomo $pitz
platzavek.com

nachman rosenberg

sooner or later all rabonim gona be in our team the rest beis din will be nirbarter $hein $hmeil $hlomo $pitz
platzavek.com

fetchi spitz

hi mr. brooklyn - i am sorry i mean mr. soap - no no i mean mr. kitchen i guess you use alle meat for your chicken soup it has a lot chelev it should be very taste... and if you need broccoli by eden the edelstein bugs are something delicious.... edelstein is the masgiach and the broker what's wrong ekelstein from uruguay is the broker and masgiach too.. sometimes he his the bodek chuts too.. he had a good rebbe a Brisker talmid from ?
FETCHI

fetchi spitz

hi mr. brooklyn - i am sorry i mean mr. soap - no no i mean mr. kitchen i guess you use alle meat for your chicken soup it has a lot chelev it should be very taste... and if you need broccoli by eden the edelstein bugs are something delicious.... edelstein is the masgiach and the broker what's wrong ekelstein from uruguay is the broker and masgiach too.. sometimes he his the bodek chuts too.. he had a good rebbe a Brisker talmid from ?
FETCHI

nachman rosenberg

i think rubas butcher on 15av is only butcher that sells with discount on erev shabbos and his crawn restraund gives food for the needy for no pay so there are the brooklyn kitchen

nachman rosenberg

yidel dahalf you chayi you are willing to destroy over hundred and fifty families four your twenty percent and you are talking what?

nachman rosenberg

yidel dahalf you chayi you are willing to destroy over hundred and fifty families four your twenty percent and you are talking what?

fetchi

i guess titcher understands you now MUCH Better

fetchi spitz

fetchi

i guess titcher understands you now MUCH Better

fetchi spitz

yidandahalf

My last post was on the 12th. What's to explain? You can post in Yiddish or English, I can understand both but what's the point? So what about the Nirbarter, families devouring families for gelt and evil. In Olam HaBa you will find all what you look for. Maybe it will be like a grotesque Jewish version of Tiger Balm Gardens with a Weinberg pen for special cases. You have a chance to change but I doubt you will.

moshe titcher

Ich gevolt reden abisley yiddish ober... yidandahaf can you explain your last post its like a broken cd

moshe titcher bodek kreisem for nirbarter ruv and shmeil shlomo spitz

Simon Kalman

Shamray fix your site something serious going on here!

Nachman Rosenberg

hey aron which holender tanya?

Rabbi Alter Moshe Goldenberg

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Rabbi Goldenberg

Aron Teitelbaum

I will do like the govener of new york i will soon give in my resignation to holender - i just need to speak it over with the maxi golem $hein.

Aron Teitelbaum

I will do like the govener of new york i will soon give in my resignation to holender - i just need to speak it over with the maxi golem $hein.

Simon Kalman

That's another reason why Shaloem mordchai didn't wanna him in postvile! In the 3 Days he was there (many years ago) he spend most of his time in the PUP! He keep quoting statements from............in the PUP!

Eliot Spitzer

Now as i gave my resignation as new york govener i will spend my rest of my life to join shmara and yidandahaf on this blog
no question now will be back monday afternoon

Eliot

yidandahalf

yeah, ya never know. tell the golem to stop looking over his shoulder so much, it leads to back and neck injury.

steven harisburgh

George
see one of the common above about shain behavior in factories with all these shaking hand and other cropps.... so I believe this man might even be client 6&7

Shamray wrote "postville here i come. if only to teach some english" my answer is
"Idiot.
Who says (Yidandahalf) simon kalman lives in this timezone? " we both live in peru"
you used to eat chulent by sholom mordchai like me by yudelhalf!!!!!!!

Simon Kalman

sorry about my english but "We forget you think the earth is flat. Next time I will remember and only use your time zone."and which contry I live and my prime language ........

george fox

i know yudel very good he was my client eight!

nachman rosenberg

that's a cheap shot - you with your sewer clothing and big fat tommy don't look any think better i will lend you my mirror - platzavek.com
nachman

yidandahalf

postville here i come. if only to teach some english classes to golem's retards. his website is pretty sucky too. just why is he so low class? all that gelt and he still looks like he just got off the boat.

Simon Kalman

Shamray
Do you know that its a big chance that on the nest ¢25 (quarter) from Iowa state from one side of the quarter will bear the the liberty picture and fron the other side the symbolic symbol of Agriprocerss which is the states most respectively infrastructure???!!!!!!!!!


So it took you second to think "maybe" !!?? This is what I want from you!!!!!......

simon kalman

who do you think you are? you want!!!!!

Shmarya

Another highly literate comment from Agri supporters.

Just to clarify:

I never said I worked for Agriprocessors.

You could go back and read my comments to see that.

Was I ever in Agriprocessors in Postville? Sure.

I also have known Sholom Mordechai for 20 years.

I know one of his sister's and a brother-in-law, as well.

And I've met Aaron several times.

As for trying to "melk" them, if you mean blackmail or extortion, you're simply wrong.

I have never asked or taken money from Agri or Rubashkin, and I have never threatened them with blackmail or extorted them.

I have no interest ion Sholom Mordechai's money. All I want him to do is clean up his slaughter.

yisroel feig

yes nachman sholom is the golem and operate a company with over thousand employees and this clever yidandahaf has nothing more to do than sitting on the internet - simon shamra is a shmok living in min. he is known there as a yidel shein of lake he never worked in agri he just was trying to melk them

nachman rosenberg

if you smarter where is YOUR company how is it called UPERKAKA?
nachman

yidandahalf

Simon Mini Golem is on the scene. Unlike you abominations, I like this fight. It's worthy and its support grows daily. You just never know where it's gonna hit you next. Do you, do you now? Nope, no clue. That's why you're all schwitzing. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next year. We got time. I'm younger and smarter than boss Golem and I don't smoke like a chimmney. Boss Golem keeps his loyal crows by his side, but sheesh! He just never knows. Keeps him awake at night. Gotta feel sorry for the UBERKIKE sometimes. Well, maybe not.

nachman rosenberg

yidandahaf castro i see your problem is that he his a boss listen to me when you would not sit a whole day on the internet including ten minutes for shabbos you would be able to be successful to be a boss of a big company now you are the big boss of your toliet flush it.
nachman

Simon Kalman

Shain
your fight against agri is like jusr like fighting to IBM-or Microsoft would do you think you think they are local butcher evrey once of meat is sokpl B"H nothing gets dump "zoltz platzen" they are used to headaches jusr like evrey big operation has (imfarginers) regarding USDA in almost evrey plant if the USDA whuld have the own employees working daily it would be clised to days

yidandahalf

The big boss Golem is afraid of a blog, afraid of the Internet. Just like I thought. He won't come out. No problem, patience I have in spades.

Shmarya

) The first time when bekski was in iowa was after 30 years of Agri establishment

That would be tough. Agri was founded in 1987. You're off by 10 years.

2) yudal half is shain

Again, I know this is false..

3) yudal posted his common in shabbas 6:23 pm this is lakewood timezone

IDIOT. The time shown on the posts are for the timezone of the blog. It was an hour later in Lakewood.

from when you where kicked off iowa

I was never kicked out.

~~~~~~~~~~

again if you where there then i work in shipping department as i mentioned i work here like you where there - nachman

Like I said, ask Sholom Mordechai.

Simon Kalman

ill repeat short
1) The first time when bekski was in iowa was after 30 years of Agri establishment , he was there winter 2006 for 8 hours he was highly impressed from the kasrus standard of the plant
2) yudal half is shain
3) yudal posted his common in shabbas 6:23 pm this is lakewood timezone
4) from when you where kicked off iowa until now the whole plant made progress they improved the kasrus standard to the highest points you may ask all cosver rabonim who visted the plant in the passed years

nachman rosenberg

again if you where there then i work in shipping department as i mentioned i work here like you where there - nachman

Shmarya

Again,

Belsky was there before. You said he wa not. You were wrong.

You claimed YidandaHalf is Yudel Shain. That is false.

You claimed Yidandahalf broke Shabbos to post here. That is false.

You claimed I was never in Agriprocessor Postville. That is false. (As Sholom Mordechai. Tell him I said hello.)

You both repeatedly post false statements.

There is no reason for anyone reading this to trust either of you.

yidandahalf

The Golem's shabbos goys know more what's going on than you losers. Give it up and get real jobs, you will have to sooner or later.

Simon Kalman

Shamaray
1) I clarified belski was there less than 8 hours.... so its "Kman Delisa"

nachman rosenberg

shmara was in agri just like i work in agri shipping department ha ha! who is the real golem?

Simon Kalman

even so what's the different he experience high satisfaction you know that aswell

Shmarya

1) the first time when bekski was visiting iowa was 2007 he then wrote a nice letter on all kasrus there and applied to the public to stop with all imfargunshi stick!!

False. He was there before.

Simon Kalman

1) the first time when bekski was visiting iowa was 2007 he then wrote a nice letter on all kasrus there and applied to the public to stop with all imfargunshi stick!!

Shmarya

It's hard to tel what you mean to say with all those misspellings and no sentence structure or correct punctuation.

But I'll take a stab at it.

I spoke personally with Rabbi Belsky about the first wave of PETA allegations in 2004 against Agriprocessors. Belsky was very clear – Sholom Mordechai was wrong.

simon kalman

I mosr probably got to know USDA rulls more than you almost evrey plant gone that through 100 times a yeae in larger scale wgy jump in agri I will quote the word that theOCHR YISROEL Belski who leks hollonder t.... (also a USDA violence ) thinking of getting rish yeshiva he said by the alle ciliv parsha last year and its still on tape it a KITCHEN Problem thus is what r thw USDA blew uo

Shmarya

1. It is NOT him.

2. Plenty of people now hate Agri and Rubashkin. Plenty.

simon kalman

Again this code GED is him referring my past history any way the only person who hate agri is him

Shmarya

I've been in the plant.

As for the "answer," it may convince you but it certainly does not and will not convince most people, especially most people who are not Chabad.

Lastly, the violations at Agri were serious.

I worked in slaughter houses and in a meat processing plant and I know what those violations are.

Simon Kalman

Shamray nachman already answerd you USDA would close your home kitchen too just to set the fact straight I ask my friend who works there to snap a picture fron his cell phone the cleans of the plant evrey morning give me a email address where I could email to you!!

Shmarya

Let me again try to get you to understand:

YdandaHalf is NOT Yudel Shain.

I know this 100%.

simin kalman

shalom has over 1,200 employees just in postvile plant and another 100 in local pride and another 500 in south america and hundres more across USA many office ble ien haro so you think all of them are golem!!!! and if that's the case why did you want to work for him??? remember you also have parnusa from him because nany toliets you fixed broked from his delicious franfurktrs!!'' how about that

Shmarya

Idiot.

The findings against your employer Rubashkin come from the USDA, not from Yudel Shain.

Yudel Shain did not report this story until long after I did.

simon kalman

I have done that already 18 years ago.

yidandahalf

Are you assholes going to start firing ketushas from Postville into Lakewood now?

simon kalman

this code GED is clear indicates you live in lakewood and you are a mcallal shabbas beside tge facr that I wrote when ever you walk into a plant you mach a brucha bora minay me"zonot" that's what you are all about

shmarya
I don't Represent agri i was never there I only have trust in those rabonim who are the world's torah leaders and have S'micha from all gedola hador from the previous generation on shcita in fact I know that there is no decision undertaken with out asking harav wosner or harav brandsdofer or harav Weiss gavad Jerusalem beside a there is a tsuva from several pages written on every move and shalot happening in the plant. I am confidence (i don't care what this plumber from lakewood has to say in fact he was there obly 3 days for almost 15 years ago) This what I relay no one in the world will challenge me, the nirbater has 0 talent he has no staff any shalla happening he takes his own action without advising anyone he does not no how to write tsuva when something happening and forced to to share his opinion to public he then hire izerkowowitz and jackkowitz to write for him do you know that he is shecting in costa rico about 300 cattle a day only 2 shocthim they are shoctim bodkim masghim mnakrim molchim evrey think (ask the rov from chabad in costa rico are call the shocot engel and frishman) and tgey take 80% glatt???????? this plumber from Lakewood POSTED his common on shabbas.......... This the nurbeter allied

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