Please Support This Blog – Sticky Post for the Week of January 13 to 20

In the nearly four years I've published FailedMessiah, I don't think I've ever asked for money for myself – until now.

Over the years, we've raised money for a Jew who needed a kidney transplant, for poor children in Addis Ababa, and for a destitute Jew in Boston. But I've never raised money to pay for this blog.

Publishing FailedMessiah.com takes a tremendous amount of time and energy. (I know it may not appear that way to some of you, but it really does.) It also costs money, far more than most people realize.

If you've found this blog to be worthwhile, please donate today to help it continue and thrive.

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Thank you for reading, commenting and for your support.

Comments

[Joe Izrael]

Make room for the schnnorrmobile!

[keep it coming]

Just donated a small amount. Don't give up your important work, Shmarya. You're a beacon of truth in a cesspool of lies!

[A]

HI,
Depending on your traffic, I can host your blog for free if you need it.

[hey k I c]

this is THE cesspool of lies.
go broke.

[yidandahalf]

Joe Israel: The schnorrmobile??? You're taking a free ride in it.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Is it yellow, with Shmarya's picture on it?

[yidandahalf]

Y.L. are you the same dude that conducts the Atlanta Symphony?

[ERLICHE JEW]

go broke u mamzer

[Joe Izrael]

I don't know if it's allowed to post this here, but I see no article with this subject.

Anyway RE our previous conversation, here's just for starters: http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Rage/NAMBLARAGEPAGE.html

[The Monsey Tzadik]

I am going to donate later this week. I think it is so important for this web site to exists. Orthodox Judaism needs its own Martin Niemöller who will stand up against evil and stupidity.

[Shmarya]

Just donated a small amount. Don't give up your important work, Shmarya.

Thanks!

I am going to donate later this week. I think it is so important for this web site to exists. Orthodox Judaism needs its own Martin Niemöller who will stand up against evil and stupidity.

And thank you, Monsey Tzaddik!

[Archie Bunker]

Maybe Shmarya can explain how he is better than kollel fellows who schnorr instead of seeking more gainful employment.

I can't wait to hear all the silly excuses and melancholy symphony of little violins from him and his supporters.

That's entertainment!

[Shmarya]

The difference Ab, is that you come into my "beis medrash," so to speak, and use it.

I ask you for money. I don't go door-to-door and send out mailings asking Jews who do not use the services to pay for them.

That said, what I oppose is the haredi idea that every male should lean full time.

I don't oppose some doing this.

I oppose lots of people doing it, many not really learning.

And I oppose a system that says l'chatchilla, a priori, rely on welfare and handouts.

Are doctors helping to save the lives of poor, sick children in Africa "schnorrers" in your book?

Is a man who publishes a Torah journal (something like RJJ's, for example, a schnorrer when he asks for support?

For better or worse, I provide a service. You can use that service for free as much as you want.

But if you find it at all useful, if you think it's important to expose molesters and those who cover for them or to try to return our kashrut supervisions to sanity (i.e., the Rubashkin scandals), then please give something to help.

It cost money to do this, AB.

I've supported it myself for almost four years. It's time for others to kick in, too.

[The Heilge Rebbe of Otisville]

Just like Charles Johnson of LGF and Jihad Watch report the access of Islam, UOJ and FM point out the access of Jewish Fundamentalism. Maybe Avi Shafan can get a job lying for CAIR.

"Islam is a religion of Peace and Orthodox is the religion of NAMBLA with chairman Pinni Scheinberg"

Mula Shafan

Maybe Shmarya can explain how he is better than kollel fellows who schnorr instead of seeking more gainful employment.

Well, Shmarya probably has a JOB, for starters.

[yona loriner]

why schnor????? why not advertising?????? oohhhhhh i know cause noone will advertise with u i get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[yona loriner]

shmarya doesnt knowq how to do it the american way!!!! he has to go the ortho way! well he is jewish...

[Shmarya]

Not really. I turned down Oorah a few months ago, because I don't like the way they do business.

I ran ads for awhile, but they slowed down the loading of the blog too much.

Chbadniks convinced Google almost four years ago that, because my site is "anti-Lubavitch," it should fall under Google's anti-hate clause.

Google claimed that, because my site was against one group – Chabad – it therefore was disqualified from Google ad programs.

I asked if sites that were anti-George Bush fell under that policy, noting that Google ads ran on dozens of sites that accused Bush of starting the Gulf War to make a personbal fortune and the like.

Google refused to answer the question.

[Plink Plink Plunk]

Google claimed that, because my site was against one group – Chabad – it therefore was disqualified from Google ad programs.

Shmarya -

That was then, this is now.

Now your site is anti-Chabad, anti-Ger (as it relates to Mondrowitz), anti-charedi gedolim who issue stupid chumrot, anti-Rubashkin, etc. Your site is against any group that is either nut-job fundamentalist, protector of child molesters, prone to watering down kashrut standards, promulgates racism, foists nonsensical bans on followers, etc.

Maybe four years ago you were only against one group and were therefore "disqualified from Google ad programs," but not anymore.

[Isa]

Well I kicked in a little bit
I better NOT get any other people trying to snorr from me.

[Isa]

Have you tried SATMAR??
They hate Chabad
But then you could not run any bad news about them.
Be a Satmar puppet

[meyer]

where can I donate to shut this blog down?

[A]

contextual advertising is not your only option, come on man, I buy stuff all the time online. put some cool stuff like omakase ads and im sure you will do ok. you figured out how to use the amazon donation button, im sure you can handle the omakase banners too

[LS]

You provide a vital service to the frum community----without grit there are no pearls. It's incumbent upon anyone with an investment in the protection of our community and the values that we see to uphold to support this blog. Hatzlacha!

where can I donate to shut this blog down?

The less traffic this blog gets, the less successful it will be and then it will close down.

So, meyer, do your part and stop visiting this site!

I know that you are dedicated to shutting this blog down, and since you are a sincere and dedicated person, I expect you to not post on this site any more. So, go for it meyer! Be the first person among many to stop visiting this blog. A movement has to start with one person - so lead the way!!!

[anonybear]

How much does it actually cost to run this blog?

[Leslie]

'Maybe Shmarya can explain how he is better than kollel fellows who schnorr instead of seeking more gainful employment'. A kollel fellow would expect payment for reading someone elses blog

[yona loriner]

shmarya ok we know that noone in a million yrs would advertise with u! u just baked up a crappy excuse that it will slow down the loading... u think we r stupid?????????????????? how bout trying to sell hats and t-shirts ect... OHHHHHH NOONE WOULD BUY ANY OF UR CRAP EXCEPT THE 3 LOOOOOSERS WHO DONATED

[yonah loriner]

i get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[A.R.]

Shmarya deserves a medal for this blog!
I havent got much money, but I'm happy to donate to the cause.

[David]

Shmarya, the only real way to get people to donate is for you to give an ultimatum. Either $10,000 is given in the next month or you are shutting down the blog, and if the money is not raised then you shut down the blog to show people that they need to stop taking advantage of you.

[Yochanan Lavie]

yidandahalf; No, I don't conduct the Atlanta Symphony. I wish I was that talented.

[Who runs the show, the Torah or the rabbis?]

Shmarya, you will love this article:

Who runs the show, the Torah or the rabbis?

[Rebtsvi]

I don't always agree with Shmarya.

Sometimes I get upset with what he writes.

Take the Kastner case for example...

But I think he needs to be heard.

Which is why it took me all of two seconds
to donate.

Because in a community, all voices must be heard.

And other voices - such as Canonist - have silenced themselves.

There aren't many forums like this and Shmarya is very hesitant to censor.

So I invite you to join me.

[The Rain in the Plains]

Maybe Shmarya can explain how he is better than kollel fellows who schnorr instead of seeking more gainful employment.

1) Shmarya has a job

2) After four years, this is the first time Shmarya's asked for money

3) Shmarya's only asking for donations to supplement what he puts in himself, not pay the whole shot (i.e., he actually puts up most of the funds himself)

4) Shmarya's just asking for donations to help cover the cost of a website, not to pay the expenses of kollel tuition, books, housing costs, and household expenses for himself, his wife, and 12 kids (and their tuition and books).

5) If Shmarya finds out that a rosh yeshiva is molesting kids, he's not going to remain silent or cover up for him

6) If someone in Shmarya's family was victimized by a rabbi or "prominent member of the community," Shmarya would turn the predator in to the police and seek justice instead of worrying if doing so would make trouble for shidduchim.

[meyer]

>Shmarya, the only real way to get people to donate is for you to give an ultimatum. Either $10,000 is given in the next month or you are shutting down the blog, and if the money is not raised then you shut down the blog to show people that they need to stop taking advantage of you.

Why not shut down right now?

[Anon]

"I oppose lots of people doing it, many not really learning."

Do you oppose many people soliciting charity on blogs that are of dubious value?

"And I oppose a system that says l'chatchilla, a priori, rely on welfare and handouts."

Would you feel different if the system had everyone shnorring through a blog instead of in person?

"But if you find it at all useful, if you think it's important to expose molesters"

Please tell us what you've done to expose molesters.

"or to try to return our kashrut supervisions to sanity (i.e., the Rubashkin scandals), then please give something to help."

Do you try or would you prefer that we all just become vegetarians?

"It cost money to do this, AB."

How much does it cost. There are still some sites that will host blogs for free and quite a number that will do so for less than $25 a month. So do tell us what this cost is. If you can't afford to spring for the $100-200 per year then I question how much credence we should give to someone who can't even seem to scratch together a hundred bucks a year.

[Archie Bunker]

"Is a man who publishes a Torah journal (something like RJJ's, for example, a schnorrer when he asks for support?"

The major yeshivos like Lakewood publish journals that kollel fellows write for. Has Shmarya just unwittingly thrown his support their way?

And actually, the Torah journals contain novel interpretations. I have found little original material here that is not available on other blogs or elsewhere. Much of FM material comes via reader tips too.

[Archie Bunker]

"If you can't afford to spring for the $100-200 per year then I question how much credence we should give to someone who can't even seem to scratch together a hundred bucks a year."

Priceless.

[Shmarya]

A lot more goes into writing, managing and publishing this blog than you know.

I spend hours researching stories, on the phone with government officials, rabbis, victims, etc.

Have you ever read through hundreds of pages of FOIA documents? I have, several times, and am doing so again now.

I get dozens of emails weekly asking me to cover something or to investigate something else. I get emails from victims who simply want to be heard, from women raped by their fathers, from rabbis who have seen the worst but can't come forward publicly for fear of losing their jobs and families.

I answer those emails. I often call the people and speak with them at length. Most of the time, all I do is try to help them – reporting any story is pushed into the background by the person's immediate need.

There are several stories you know about and read in major national publications that were published directly because of me. There is one very major one you may see this week or early next. I may even have a byline.

No one pays me for the time and research. No one pays me for spending hours trying to find moderate Orthodox rabbis for people who need Orthodox rabbinic help but have been burned by the system.

And this isn't even the half of it.

As for your crack about exposing molesters, I suggest you ask your friend UOJ for his opinion on my work, which, I might ad, is far more favorable than yours. Perhaps that discrepancy is because UOJ knows a lot more than you do. Or maybe it's because UOJ is a much bigger mentch than you are. Or, much more likely, both reasons are true.

[john]

How much money does it cost to run this site? Please provide a breakdown

Why not shut down right now?

Posted by: meyer | January 14, 2008 at 01:07 PM

You keep posting on this site and giving it legitimacy instead of just ignoring it. You're setting a very poor example for us meyer.

[yidandahalf]

The point is very simple; we pay for bandwidth, we pay for cable or digital television, we pay for hard copy media. Why then should we not contribute something to a blog we actively participate on? I cannot see any difference and any excuse not to is pettiness. Many of us here are not wealthy, but if all you can do is contribute five dollars - can you not see to this? It's a shanda to use up bandwith for one's own impotent soapbox, and vanity show, to expose one's own obvious jealousy and not give up a lousy five bucks. Who is the schnorrer? Who is the freeloader?

[yidandahalf]

I fried two keyboards and a plug last night - I lost the key to my car in a parking lot and when I took the spare out of its hidey hole it was a cheap copy and did not work. A tow truck was called. I had a bad day so I am in the mood to finally tell ARCHIE FUCKING BUNKER what I really think.
AB your unbridled envy of this site and of the blog owner has got a stranglehold on you. It is not a difficult thing to bounce off of other peoples' ideas and be quite logical, witty, entertaining, enlightening or whatever when doing so. It is an entirely new universe to create a successful blog and keep it going. Obviously you are unable to do the latter, therefore you are like a dog WORRYING A FUCKING BONE. One day you want to put Shmarya in a state of confounded misery ( which you cannot do ) and the next your jealously drives you to try and take the blog over yourself. AB Wannabe, that's it is a nutshell.

[yonah loriner]

i just donated 50 grand!

[Malach Hamovies]

Shmarya,

I would like to send you $200. I wish i could give more. Keep up the great work !

I wanted to send the funds through Pay Pal. However, Pay Pal is not allowing me to change my contact info (it still has my old email address and is not allowing me to change it before sending the funds).

Amazon doesn't allow more then a $50 donation.

Do you have a post office box ? I would send you out a check/money order this week.

[Whole Lotta Kugel]

no ads, please... we'll pay up already but please, please no ads!
it's not schnorring, it's called surviving people!

[Anon]

--Amazon doesn't allow more then a $50 donation.--

How about just splitting it into manageable pieces of $50 each. Send $50 to Shmarya, $50 to me and $50 to two other people of your choosing. That should do the trick.

[Anon]

--I spend hours researching stories, on the phone with government officials, rabbis, victims, etc.--

You clearly have no life.

--Have you ever read through hundreds of pages of FOIA documents? I have, several times, and am doing so again now.--

oi vey - the situation is worse than I thought.

--I get dozens of emails weekly asking me to cover something or to investigate something else. I get emails from victims who simply want to be heard, from women raped by their fathers, from rabbis who have seen the worst but can't come forward publicly for fear of losing their jobs and families.--

and I'm the Wizzard of Oz.

--I answer those emails. I often call the people and speak with them at length. Most of the time, all I do is try to help them – reporting any story is pushed into the background by the person's immediate need.--

I assume you've had about as much success as I had trying to get Dorothy home.

--There are several stories you know about and read in major national publications that were published directly because of me. There is one very major one you may see this week or early next. I may even have a byline.--

Do please let us know what your involvement is. Unsubstantiated claims just don't do the trick.

--No one pays me for the time and research. No one pays me for spending hours trying to find moderate Orthodox rabbis for people who need Orthodox rabbinic help but have been burned by the system.--

and no one has paid me for giving the Lion courage, or the Tin Man a heart, or the scarecrow brains. It unconsionable.

--As for your crack about exposing molesters, I suggest you ask your friend UOJ for his opinion on my work, which, I might ad, is far more favorable than yours.--

Can't say he's my friend as I haven't had the pleasure of meeting him. Why don't you tell him to stop in and say hello next time he is in Oz.

[yidandahalf]

Anon??? Why not post using your usual identity? You are the one in Oz and it looks like they ain't letting you out too soon.

[Shmarya]

Anon –

Let me help you. If you don't want to donate, do not donate. Period. You don't like this website? Don't read it.

Past that, blow it out your ass.

[Shmarya]

MM–

Why not split the donation into four parts and send it that way via Amazon?

That would be the fastest and easiest way to do it.

Thanks!

[Archie Bunker]

Shmarya, I'm sorry but I feel your self-description is kind of disingenious.

You make yourself sound like Bruce Almighty or some kind of personal savior of the downtrodden. While many incest victims and others may in fact be emailing you, you do NOT publicize their plight. Years ago you even deleted UOJ's comments on your blog to raise the alarm about Kolko and Margulies and brushed off his pleas to you, adamant that you won't publish what a newspaper has not covered.

So the question stands. What do we need you for? We also have Vicky Polin's Awareness Center and others who provide a platform for those who you claim to advocate for when in fact you don't.

And perhaps we should be impressed with your voluminous reading hobby but it was readers of UOJ and Yudel who went through hundreds of pages of USDA documents to highlight bad behavior by Rubashkin.

If you are behind major newspaper exposes as you claim then show us where. And why don't you ask these media outlets to compensate you instead of asking for spare change on the virtual street corner?

[Shmarya]

Years ago you even deleted UOJ's comments on your blog to raise the alarm about Kolko and Margulies and brushed off his pleas to you, adamant that you won't publish what a newspaper has not covered.

Now we see Archie Bunker for the twisted bigot he really is.

If you were to ask UOJ, what you would hear would be those facts but in a different context.

1. There was no valid information on Kolko anywhere in print.

2. UOJ and other people leaving those comments on this blog were, a) Anonymous and b) had no sources themselves

3. I told UOJ and others that I ddn't have the resources to cover the story. I would need to fly to NYC, spend a few weeks talking to victims and Kolko defenders, check court records, etc. I had no way to do this and I had no one in NYC I could get to do it.

4. I also told UOJ and others that the best way to deal with Kolko was to get a mainstream print media outlet to do a story on him. I promised UOJ I would push that story 100% when it was printed and that I would do everything in my power to help before that.

5. Printing unsourced and unsubstantiated allegations against people is wrong.

If UOJ had said, "My name is _______ and this is what I know," and if at least one victim had said, "My name is _______ and this is what happened to me," I could have published on Kolko.

That did not happen.

And you'll note that NY Magazine did the story only because Framowitz went on the record. Without that, no story.

6. Because you are profoundly unethical, you don't realize the responsibility involved in destroying a man. For all I knew, Koloko could have been innocent and I had no way to really find out.

Today, if someone came to me with a similar story I'd have many ways of checking it out that I did not have 2 years ago.

7. UOJ repeatedly has asked me NOT to quit, NOT to stop publishing and NOT to give up the fight.

You, who considers himself to be a follower of UOJ's, are too blinded by your hatred to understand even this.

8.And perhaps we should be impressed with your voluminous reading hobby but it was readers of UOJ and Yudel who went through hundreds of pages of USDA documents to highlight bad behavior by Rubashkin.

False. I published extensive details neither had months and even years before them.

And they have published nothing regarding the USDA I didn't have and publish first.

9. You are a disgusting person, AB. I hope you spend the rest of your life wallowing in your own filth.

[Cheski]

Shmarya, you keep avoiding the question. Which major stories did you get published?

[Shmarya]

UOJ emailed the following comment to me. He posted it on his blog here.

"UOJ" - "The Un-Orthodox Jew" has left a new comment on your post "Once Upon A Time There Was A Rabbi......":

My comment on the Archie Versus Shmarya at the end of their comments...so far!

Gentlemen:

When I initially contacted Shmarya with the Kolko matter, I was a nobody! (still am to many..and that's OK by me.)

He had an obligation to fact- check --- although I had my facts verified. I could not share them with him at the time.

Little did anybody know the material I became privy to.

Shmarya's blog was actually one of the models I used in attempting to ascertain the facts --- but I was so certain of them --- that I circumvented journalistic standards - to get at the criminals. I was not concerned with the libel laws -- "truth is an absolute defense."

I look to Shmarya for his ability to spend precious time on investigating...where I just do not have the time. I have 20 full time jobs!

He has helped me considerably...on more than one issue...I ONLY PUT UP INFORMATION IN THE POST SECTION THAT I AM ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN WOULD STAND UP TO SCRUTINY IN A COURT OF LAW!

There is sooo much I can't verify to my satisfaction...so it DOES NOT GO UP!

Therefore my blog is focused on select areas...where Shmarya is able to focus on a broader spectrum of issues.

For the record...Shmarya and I - agree to disagree - on certain topics...and that's fine by me.

Support him if you're able to...please!

Posted by "UOJ" - "The Un-Orthodox Jew" to Unorthodox-Jew A Critical View of Orthodox Judaism at 12:01 PM, January 15, 2008

[steve]

Shmarya has every right to ask for money, just like we all have the right not to give it. The arguments going back and forth have degenerated into some ugly name calling, so I think it's time to call a truce. For what it's worth, I echo UOJ's sentiments in praising Shmarya for his tireless investigative efforts. Putting his personal hashkafos aside, he has brought many important issues to light and he deserves our support.

[steve]

THIS WAS POSTED TODAY ON UOJ. NOTE, SHMARYA WAS THE FIRST BLOGGER TO EXPOSE LUBINSKY FOR THE PHONY THAT HE IS:

Mayer Fertig said...
January 15, 2008
In regards to yesterdays article written by Menachem Lubinsky, the following letter was written by Mayer Fertig [Publisher and Editor-in-chief of The Jewish Star]:

Menachem,

You are certainly entitled to your view that it is appropriate to simultaneously function as a journalist and as a paid mouthpiece for a company you’re covering. Unfortunately, this would not meet the baseline ethical standards of any legitimate publication. It’s a shame that as editor of a newsletter that you bill as ‘The mouthpiece of the kosher food industry,’ you would fail to meet such a standard.

Even after you have been exposed in print, you continue to stand by the company line — which you wrote. Yes, disputes of the sort you describe are commonplace. I just find it hard to believe that you see no news value in any hint of uncertainty related to the largest kosher meat provider in the US. Particularly after you chose to report on the same issue just last week. This would seem to cast doubt on the quality of your news judgment rather than the quality of the story.

Furthermore, your dismissal of legitimate reporting on AgriProcessors and its hashgachas as the work of ‘disgruntled writers’ strikes me as more than a little convenient. Such a mischaracterization only serves to further undermine your position.

Sincerely,

Mayer Fertig
Publisher and Editor-in-chief
The Jewish Star.

[Malach Hamovies]

Shmarya,

My high speed connection is down so i'm using a friends computer. I'll be taking care of it either this week or the next.

Thanks !

[Malach Hamovies]

Shmayra,

Just took care of it.

Good Luck !

[Shmuel bet]

I don't really like most of what Shmarya has to say, but I am going to take some money that would have gone to a yeshiva that protected a molester and give it to him. I think my tzedaka is better served that way.

[The Monsey Tzaddik]

LGF and Jihad Watch have individuals and foundations who support them. They realize that it is important that someone stand up against radical Islam. FM stands up against the Taliban's brothers in Arms (haredis).

I think the MO should support Shmarya because he stands up for them when they are being marginalized by the Haredim (see beheima Tropper and his ilk). MO do not have balls to defend themselves so at least they should pay Shmarya for doing so.

Conservative and Reform Judaism should pay Shmarya because his reporting on Orthodoxy make them look sane.

Islamic charities should pay Shmarya because they can say ‘Look we are not the only crazy religion’

It was here that Tropper was first exposed and then it went to UOJ. Now there is much information about the evil perpetrated by Tropper and his yeshiva Kol Eisav and now EJF

[yidandahalf]

The Yushkis are out for sure. They are hosting haredi crows in all the churches they can get them into ( North Carolina ) and throwing money at them left, right, and center. The Yushkis find them infinitely exotic and attractive; they will do just about anything to get a live Jew of any stripe ( no pun intended ) but the more religious the better.

[Lilith Pan]

--I spend hours researching stories, on the phone with government officials, rabbis, victims, etc.--

If you spend all your time doing what you just discribed above and editing this blog, where is the money that pays for your everyday needs?
I don't believe you survive through this blog. SO WHERE IS YOUR JOB?

[yidandahalf]

"SO WHERE IS YOUR JOB" Farout, they're letting some of chicks out,and educated ones at that! All that time in back of the mechitza really sharpens their perception of things. Truly incisive reasoning - segregation works!

[Archie Bunker]

Interesting how Shmarya attacks me as a "twisted bigot" when all he does is look to twist facts around to attack orthodox Judaism and even rehabilitate a Nazi collaborator like Rudolph Kasztner.

Despite whatever accolades UOJ sends Shmarya's way, these two bloggers do not operate the same and do not espouse the same philosophies.

Many readers firmly believe that UOJ seeks to preserve orthodox Judaism while Shmarya seeks to destroy it.

Has Shmarya had original material? Sure! But so does the neo-Nazi "Stormfront" and some Ukranian anti-Semite based in Canada who works hard to destroy relationships between food companies and kashruth agencies.

My impression from the UOJ-Shmarya exchange years ago was based on the fact that even after Shmarya first denied the anti-Kolko/Margulies platform, UOJ still frustratingly argued and pleaded, to no avail, that Shmarya reconsider. I don't know why it was so difficult for Shmarya to do the same thing I did, namely speak to YTT alumni, who are respected people in the community, who are convinced of Kolko-Margulies guilt. I also heard from those in Stolin yeshiva who Kolko earlier tried getting into their pants. There are so many people from so many different locations like various Catskills camps that I find it difficult to believe that Shmarya couldn't find credible witnesses with very little effort.

Shmarya can scream "FALSE" until he is blue in the face but I stand by what I say about the USDA records on UOJ's & Yudel's blogs. Readers went through hundreds of pages to excerpt exact details like chicken franks full of feathers and contaminated water drip on meat to name only two of many examples of the kind of material not covered by Shmarya.

Shmarya then conveniently ignored the most damaging questions.

1. Why does he not name the print media whose article are supposedly by his pen but with no byline?

2. Why does Shmarya not look to be compensated by them instead of shnorring from the public?

3. Why did he promote himself as the savior of incest victims? Has he gone to bat for a single one on Failed Messiah? I don't think so, but Vicky Polin does.

[Shmarya]

Archie –

You're a sick man.

1. UOJ explained exactly why I could not print the Kolko information when he first tried to leave it here as a comment.

2. To expect someone who doesn't have connections to that yeshiva of those camps to simply "start calling people" and get the story is insane. It takes a lot more work than that.

3. The FOIA documents you people looked at are food safety docs related to things like feather in ho tdogs, etc., not documents related to meat hooks in throats and related things.

4. When a person works on background and provides information to or otherwise helps media outlets, part of the deal, so to speak, is to remain on background. Don't get that? Ask UOJ.

5. For the last time, do no give me money if you think this blog is not worth supporting. If you think is is worth supporting, give money.

[Archie Bunker]

Why do you not qualify as a paid freelancer if you did as much work for newspapers that you say you did?

Again, don't you think you are overstating your efforts on behalf of incest and abuse victims when other websites like the Awareness Center publicize what you don't?

[Archie Bunker]

I did not attend any of those yeshivas or camps. I do not even live in Brooklyn, yet I was able to find out with ease that UOJ's account was accurate according to those at the scene of the crimes.

[Archie Bunker]

"SHMARYA WAS THE FIRST BLOGGER TO EXPOSE LUBINSKY FOR THE PHONY THAT HE IS"

OR IS HE?

I don't have exact dates but Rabbi Yudel Shain was on to Lubinsky a long time ago. I remember him reporting a year ago on Lubinsky's involvement in the treif confusion cover up when KosherFest did a trade show merger with the Hispanic food show.

[steve]

Archie,

I was the one who alerted Rav Yudel regarding the fraud Lubinsky last Spring. This was after Shmarya posted it here. You can check out the comments on both blogs. I believe it occurred last May.

[Archie Bunker]

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/kosher_meat_scandal/index.html

Shmarya's "kosher scandal" index shows he first took on Lubinsky in a lead post on May 22nd, 2007.

Rabbi Yudel Shain often takes his posts offline - especially the more controversial and caustic ones - which is what he did with his headers against Lubinsky. He has also removed posts detailing the kashruth scandals involving Leib Pinter and others.

I found a Yudelstake post from late in 2007 (before KosherFest 2007) that was excerpted on UOJ's blog. The hyperlink to the original no longer works because it was removed.

There was an even earlier post removed from Yudelstake that I figured out does predate Shmarya. After KosherFest 2006, there was discussion of an effort to stop Lubinsky and his employer, Diversified of Maine, from covering up the treif confusion. Someone notified Rabbi Shain that he was contacted by a rabbi in the industry who was afraid Lubinsky & co would retaliate against him and revoke his perks if he personally led the fight to stop them.

[yidandahalf]

Archie, you need to take some drugs.

[Archie Bunker]

"You're a sick man." "you need to take some drugs."

High praise considering the source is Shmarya and his groupies.

Many rational people believe the reality is the exact opposite.

[michael ben drosai]

"So the question stands. What do we need you for? We also have Vicky Polin's Awareness Center and others who provide a platform for those who you claim to advocate for when in fact you don't."

Yeah but at least Scotty doesn't eat human babaies (he hardly eats Rubashin!)

[Noclue]

Her is a heads up.

Rabbi Belsky gave a shiur at Agudas Israel of Madison last Sunday and he said that there was a problem with the Kasruth at Aarons becaause a truck carrying a shipment of 9000 chickens fell over creating a shaila of trefos. The person giving the Hechser took his own name off the Hasgacha and KAJ off but had the chickens sold with the OU's hecsher. Rabbi Belsky said in front of everybody that he did not know if you could buy Aarons at the present time until the matter was cleared up.

A tape of the shiur was made and is presumably available from Aguda of Madison for anybody who wants it. I can assure you that this information is accurate from personal knowledge (I was either there or heard the tape).

[yidandahalf]

Wow, groupies...? How can I get one ( or two, or... )?

[yonah loriner]

i wonder how much he pulled in the last few days..

[Shmarya]

Shmarya's "kosher scandal" index shows he first took on Lubinsky in a lead post on May 22nd, 2007.

Just to show you all what type of an delusional person Archie Bunker is, Click here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=lubinsky&btnG=»&domains=failedmessiah.typepad.com&sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Ffailedmessiah.typepad.com

The first link as of today is a post regarding Lubinsky. It's dated 2005.

You're a sick man, Archie, and you live in a sick community. Seek help.

[Archie Bunker]

Shmarya, it's an old story that you try to paint your critics as "sick" or with some other lovely adjective. And my whole community is "sick"? Nice to see that Liberals such as yourself like to generalize but go beserk if the targets of criticism are not persons of pallor.

All I did was look for "Lubinsky" in your headlines and did not think there would anything before 2006. Why is that? Because in the early days that PETA was on the attack I was under the mistaken impression that there was nothing to what they were saying. I was also under the impression that Nathan Lewin was serving as Rubashkin's flunky. I was not even aware that Lubinsky was in the picture yet. Lewin was the one getting all the attention from Jewish newspapers and the NY Times.

It still holds true that Yudel Shain was the first site that broke the story about treif at KosherFest.

Meanwhile, you haven't addressed the other questions posed to you by myself and other readers. I hope you realize that when you ask for handouts, people have a right to ask questions that are more prying.

[Neo-Conservaguy]

Perhaps Shmarya should adopt a pay-to-play approach to the comments. With that in place, Archie will be paying quite a bit to post his interrogations and allegations. Pay up, Archie - you know you can't stay away from this site!

[yidandahalf]

AB,
You are a man without any true loyalties. Your ravings attack a blog and its owner who has a very clear cut agenda, a cause if you will. On the other hand, if anyone has the stamina to even get through a fraction of what you inflict upon the readers here, it becomes evident that you are wandering in some sort of deluded haze without any clear notion of what you stand for or who you stand with.

[Archie Bunker]

I am all for the pay to play model. I guarantee it will spell the end of this site.

And how much has the big talker Neo-Conservaguy ponied up?

[Archie Bunker]

My loyalties lie with those who seek to wipe out corruption as long as they do not cross certain red lines. I strongly believe that Shmarya is way beyond the pale with his attacks on everything orthodox with no solution but to create a different religion if you will.

[yidandahalf]

Transparency will herald in a solution; clearly you are a man with a frighteningly rigid mind set. A robot crow apparatchnik.

[Neo-Conservaguy]

If you pay proportionately what I paid (posts/$), you've got some serious money to send his way. Pay up.

[Archie Bunker]

The Wall St Journal lets you post endlessly on their blogs and on their editorial page for free. Are you implying that this page has more worth than they do?

[meyer]

>I am all for the pay to play model. I guarantee it will spell the end of this site.

cool idea

[yidandahalf]

"The Wall St Journal.." would have thrown your sorry ass off from the jump. Shmarya allows you to rave so that it can be seen how truly desparate the haredis are becoming the closer their backs get to the wall.

[Shmarya]

The WSJ uses their blogs and the small section of their site that is free to do outreach, so to speak, to get more paid subscribers to the vast majority of their site that is viewable only after you pay money.

[Archie Bunker]

And the new owner of the WSJ, Rupert Murdoch, is planning on opening up the entire site for free. They just merged the free and paid websites as a first step.

The NY Times and Salon have also given up on their subscription models although Salon forces you to endure annoyingly lengthy ad slideshows.

[yidandahalf]

So wtf does that mean, Archie? You look around on the web for completely useless information and drag it here - just like a dog worrying a bone. Just like I said before.

[Anon]

"My loyalties lie with those who seek to wipe out corruption as long as they do not cross certain red lines. I strongly believe that Shmarya is way beyond the pale with his attacks on everything orthodox with no solution but to create a different religion if you will."

I second that. Shmarya is clearly a bright guy and makes some good points, however, his agenda is not anti-corruption but anti-orthodox. When he finds some corruption associated with any orthodox he just latches on to it.

[yona loriner]

i vote for the pay to play!!! and put it on ouj as well.. why not shut'em both down lol..
i would still read although disagree with 99.999999999999 percent of what he writes.. some things are still interesting in his twisted way of looking at orthodox jud..

[YS]

Scotty, this is your personal Hyde Park speaker's corner chair or milk carton or whatever. You pay no hosting fees and produce nothing of value except that you lie to the point that I and a couple of other decent individuals have to use our spare web surfing time to show you for what you are (just as I spent last year Nitel Nacht satirizing Moishe Aryeh Friedman so that anyone with 1/2 a brain could see that he represents nothing and no one.

You are a sad loser, wallowing in your own manure. You are also on your way to tzoiah roitachas in oilam haba, and kareis in oilam hazeh. Anyone who pays for you to keep doing this can share in your reward.

[yona loriner]

right on ys!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wss]

This doesn't seem right. Shmarya, you changed the dates for when this will be up to add an extra day. They proper thing to do, is to have an update and say that you want more money and therefore you are leaving this up an extra day.

[SJ]

YS- hopefully you rot in hellfires a billion times hotter then what exists in this universe.

Your despicable remarks towars someone who helps to expose corruption in Orthodox Judaism is a disgrace, YS. You should have pork shoved down your throat.

[SJ]

*towards

[SJ]

*towards