GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL: Mondrowitz was "Protected" by Ger Hasidim, Found "Refuge" in Ger Community

These are excerpts from the latest Mondrowitz court appearance:

Moaz [Mondrowitz's lawyer]: In addition to the electronic bracelet, there is Meir Zilberstein, the main rabbi of the Ger hasidim in Jerusalem. In tow with him is Yaakov Kaminsky, [Rabbi Zilberstein's nephew and a lawyer]. Rabbi Zilberstein will commit to taking responsibility for this respondent for the duration of our dealing with this issue. Rav Zilberstein is a major gadol, recognized in his community, and is the respondent's rabbi. Together with his being supervised 24 hours and an electronic bracelet, is this not sufficient as an alternative to incarceration? We are almost three decades after these allegations. Also, even when he knew they were looking for him in '86 he basically consulted with his attorney for the duration and did not ever attempt to disappear. So, therefore I am saying that even though he knew he was wanted, he has proven by his actions that he didn't disappear for 20 years. I would refer to the points I just made. Even Kaminisky will be willing to watch the respondent for 24 hours a day.

Kaminsky [Rabbi Zilberstein's nephew and a lawyer]: I am ready. I am sure. I have family and I am still willing to do this. I am prepared for the supervision to be at my house. I have small children. I understand what is written in this case. I also know about what they found on his computer. My small kids will not be home. This is my decision. I am ready.

Maoz: I also have a financial guarantee of 100,000. The family is very modest. They are also prepared to give 250,000 shekels.

Kaminsky: I will move into my parents' apartment with [Mondrowitz].

[The question is where will he stay]

Kaminsky: I  will move into wherever he is. [The distance from Kaminsky's parents' house is five minutes. He has three children, 4, 11 and 16.] [Rabbi] Zilberstein is the spiritual adviser for over 2400 households in Jerusalem and Beit Shemesh. He is the highest [Ger hasidic] spiritual leader. Because of the reputation of the rabbi, nobody is going to damage his reputation. He will also sign.

The State's attorney (Hershkowitz): We oppose any kind of alternative to incarceration. We are speaking here of somebody charged with serious crimes of a sexual nature. Against children. We are also talking about crimes he committed in his house. In our opinion house arrest is not appropriate. An alternative to incarceration is based on the trustworthiness of the respondent himself. The respondent has demonstrated throughout the years the ability to flee justice. He is not deserving of an more opportunities to flee from justice and extradition to the United States. It is not only an issue of whether we have confidence in the guarantors because, like the judge noted, one of them is the father of small children in the area where the respondent lives. According to the detention service, the respondent was helped by the community. According to evidence submitted, the defendant was advised by rabbis to flee to Israel. Strictly speaking, even the bail amount was ridiculously low in respect to the serious offenses described in this case.

In our opinion the alternative to incarceration is not sufficient. We are requesting his incarceration until the extradition hearing.

Moaz: They are coming back with these strong words. In the 80's he appeared for every court date. To come and say after 20 years that he would be considered a flight risk, this is not right. He went out in public for 20 years and he never ran away. The risk or danger was there, but he still did not run away. After we've heard what the court had to say we are prepared to bring the rabbi (Zilberstein) in as a guarantor. The respondent will live with the rabbi in his house. If we need additional supervision, we can also bring Kaminsky. I understand the State's stand, and their arguments.

The State's other attorney: We believe that he will disappear. The community and his family are complicit in why he didn't run away. He was being protected here and knows he has refuge here. This concern is alive and well.

The Judge: The respondent's attorney is requesting that he be released to Rabbi Zilberstein and additionally, as a guarantor, Yaakov Kaminsky. The incarceration service has requested a continuance of the proceding until January 9 at 10:30.…

Here is the entire Hebrew document as a PDF file. If you can translate it for us, please do. Leave your translation as a comment in the comments section of this post. Thanks!

Comments

[Fed Up]

You're showing your true colors again...
Prosecutors are prosecutors. had teh judge said it, you'd be correct.

[Shmarya]

ou're showing your true colors again...
Prosecutors are prosecutors. had teh judge said it, you'd be correct.

No.

The prosecutors are representing the GOVERNMENT.

The judge represents no one.

[Archie Bunker]

Fed Up,

Are you for real?

Do you really argue as to whether Ger protected Mondrowitz?

[Garnel Ironheart]

So simple. If he was a poor Sephardi blue collar worker from Talpiyot and accused of the same thing, would anyone even be trying to get him an electronic bracelet and cheap bail?

[mordecai]

This will be an interesting story. The worst type of case for a defense attorney to represent is a sexual abuse case of children. Mondrowitz is in for hell when he gets extradited. If the allegations are true sympathy must be with the children who were abused by Monrowitz. Nonetheless, I still feel sorry for the guy. Having tried these cases, I know his life as he knows it will end.

[Archie Bunker]

"I know his life as he knows it will end."

So? The life of hundreds of young Mondrowitz victims ended years ago when he transformed it into a living Hell.

[steve]

Nonetheless, I still feel sorry for the guy

Misplaced compassion, Mordecai. As Jews, we are naturally rachmanim bnei rachmanim, so we are expected to feel sorry for our fellow Jew. However, if ever there was a case that warranted an exception, this has to be it. I cannot think of another Jewish figure in the past 100 years that deserves less compassion and more scorn than Avrohom Mondrowitz. His unspeakable crimes and atrocities(granted he's not convicted yet, but the overwhelming evidence can't be ignored) against innocent children can never be wiped away. I've read somewhere that Rabbi Avigdor Miller, zt"l called him the "Jewish Hitler".

[Isa]

Regarding"""I cannot think of another Jewish figure in the past 100 years that deserves less compassion and more scorn than Avrohom Mondrowitz"""
I can.... the creeps that protected Mondrowitz. Thats why the big rebbes do not deserve respect

[Jason]

Hey Scott,
You know of Joseph "Youssef" Cohen, the one-time Satmar BT turned Jew-hating Muslim fanatic? Well a friend of mine was arguing with him via emails, and Youssef recommended your website. Thought you might like to know that.
Jason

[Fed Up]

Archie,
I didn't defend Mondrowitz... I think he should be sent to prison with a bunch of human apes, and they should be told that he molested kids. I attacked the blog's headline.

[Archie Bunker]

Yes, Fed Up,

And I am surprised that even a blind man could not see that Ger, or at least elements of it, are protecting Mondrowitz.

It's clear that the Agudah & Ohel were also protecting him until he fled the U.S.

[Shmarya]

Hey Scott,
You know of Joseph "Youssef" Cohen, the one-time Satmar BT turned Jew-hating Muslim fanatic? Well a friend of mine was arguing with him via emails, and Youssef recommended your website.
Jason

Hey, Jason,

You know those Hebrew-Christians who try to get Jews to believe that a dead messiah is a Jewish concept?

They really like Chabad.

Thought you might like to know that.

Shmarya

[Yosef ben Matitya]

.....As Jews, we are naturally rachmanim bnei rachmanim, so we are expected to feel sorry for our fellow Jew......
actually steve, we are trained to think that we are rachmonim. otherwise we are no less savages than others, in fact, some of the people arguing on this and other similar blogs, demonstrate a greater degree of savagery than others (gentiles) who show shame, not so with ours, said to be bayshonim with nothing to back up the claim.
In addition in my humble opinion, the moment we invoke the value of rachmonus for our fellow jew (thereby excluding 'fellow non jew') we are demonstrated a total opposite to rochmonus. Otherwise, everything else you write is correct.
PS: A- I often think that those who protect the mondrovitzes of the world; the apologists of the type of shafran and other such, do not do so out of rachmonus, but rather to cover up for the "naked emperor of hareidism".
Hareidism is a religion of stupidity and ignorance - read darkness. As such it is an enemy of Judaism that proffesses to be a light onto the nations.
B- More on rachmonus- one of the ways of hareidism (including hardals) to adopt cruelty, is to quote :"al tihye tzadiq harbe" -do not be too saintly- reportedly instructed to King Saul in the matter of eradicating the Amaleqites men women livestock and children. Another one, of course is the saying that "whoever shows mercy to the cruel will end up being cruel to the merciful". Of course the cruel is whover happens to be the current Godol's "enemy du jour". Consequently the Godol is always right and his enemies, can be executed. Some "animal farms" logic.
If we do not eradicate this train of thought, we will watch our religion being eradicated, of our own doing/silence.

[Archie Bunker]

Jason's point is that the meshumad to Islam is not attracted to attacks on Chabad Messianism. It is Shmarya's attacks on larger Judaism that piques the interest of "Youssef" Cohen.

[Shmarya]

Shmarya's point is that you should not attack the messenger. Instead, you need to deal with the message.

In our case here, Rabbis Kolko, Mondrowitz, et al, created the chillul hashem, not those of us working to stop them.

Focus on the rabbi-criminals, and leave the messengers alone.

[Archie Bunker]

In case Shmarya missed it, there are readers here who do not object to criticizing molesters, thieves and their enablers but who take issue with Shmarya's attacks on religion and the Jewish people in general.

[Shmarya]

In case YOU missed it, AB, the point is that it is morally and ethically WRONG to attack the messenger.

The leaders of the haredi world cover(ed) for Rabbi Kolko and for other rabbi-molesters. The same is true for the leaders of the MO world who cover(ed) up for Baruch Lanner (and for others, as well).

Those groups represent Judaism, the only "true" Judaism as you see it. It is their raison d'être, their only reason to exist. They are, for better or worse, Orthodox Judaism.

The masses need to make a macha, to make a clear public protest against both the rabbi-molesters and the rabbis' who cover(ed) for those rabbi-molesters.

Until both haredim and MO make that protest, clean house and REMOVE these leaders, both groups – and the very God and Judaism they represent – are complicit in those coverups and should be treated as such until they make change.

[R]

How can you trust Rabbis or gadol hadors when they cover up such things?
We are told to respect Rabbis and listen to them and say no evil about them, but it seems they are abusing the very power they had no right to in the first place.
One has to earn respect, but these rabbis seem to think they are owed respect for doing absolutely nothing.
They cover things up making excuses for it as they go along when at the end of the day it's to cover their own arses.
They not only are creating one huge chilul Hashem, but they put the whole jewish nation into jeapordy by their acts of stupidity. So these are the cold hearted idiots we are meant to be respecting?

[Yosef ben Matitya]

Jason,
anybody with a grain of grey matter between his/her temples who starts religiously as blank, and joins a religion such as satmar or chabad or jim jones or the likes, would find after a while -if he/she is still believing in G-d- that he has joins fraud, and that any other monotheistic religion is more acceptable.
In the case of this person you mentioned, it seems he came across Islam first.

[PloniAlmoni]

I never heard of one Jew for Jesus that said anything good about Chabad. But that crazy ex-jew Muslim creep? If he likes Shmarya's website, then something's not right.
The whole exposure of hypocrites is good - we need to clean house. But the other stuff - Shmarya's nasty attacks on Jewish traditions that fill the website from one corner to the other - these have go to stop.
We should expose the criminals and hypocrites - but we shouldn't play against our own team. I agree with Jason.

[Shmarya]

They actually had a campaign for a while based on Chabad. The idea behind it? Right idea, wrong man.

But "Jason" and "PloniAlmoni" share the same IP address and used the same computer to leave comments.

In other words, they seem to be the same person.

[Archie Bunker]

"Until both haredim and MO make that protest, clean house and REMOVE these leaders, both groups – and the very God and Judaism they represent – are complicit in those coverups and should be treated as such"

Ok, so now we can give credit to Shmarya for his candor in at least admitting he is a heretic. But let's also examine this lack of common sense in attacking G-d for the sins of men. There are no elections for Jewish leaders. Many Jews - even Haredim that Shmarya so despises - do not accept the Agudah as their leaders. There are rabbis with black hats who criticize the Agudah - not just UOJ who is an ordained rabbis from a Haredi yeshiva.

But of course Shmarya knows all this and has other reasons why he gets a kick out of attacking Judaism and it's G-d.

And getting back to the Amalekite theory, an Amalekite methodology is to attack and show up G-d.

[Archie Bunker]

"Until both haredim and MO make that protest, clean house and REMOVE these leaders, both groups – and the very God and Judaism they represent – are complicit in those coverups and should be treated as such"

Ok, so now we can give credit to Shmarya for his candor in at least admitting he is a heretic. But let's also examine this lack of common sense in attacking G-d for the sins of men. There are no elections for Jewish leaders. Many Jews - even Haredim that Shmarya so despises - do not accept the Agudah as their leaders. There are rabbis with black hats who criticize the Agudah - not just UOJ who is an ordained rabbis from a Haredi yeshiva.

But of course Shmarya knows all this and has other reasons why he gets a kick out of attacking Judaism and it's G-d.

And getting back to the Amalekite theory, an Amalekite methodology is to attack and show up G-d.

[Shmarya]

Sigh. You just don't read well, AB.

The point is, the haredim that will not make a macha, a public protest and the rabbis who cover up for molesters and other criminals drag Judaism and God through the mud.

Has there been one mass protest against the coverup in Brooklyn?

No.

The voices speaking out against these rabbi-criminals are few – extremely few – and far between, and most of their "speaking out" is done off the record – and you know this.

[Archie Bunker]

"Has there been one mass protest against the coverup in Brooklyn?"

The answer is in fact no but allow me to explain why.

The criminal perpetrators are very powerful and will be successful in destroying anyone who goes on the record. Look at the smear campaigns they launched against Eli Greenwald and against two people who they suspected of being UOJ.

Victims of Mondrowitz and Leizerowitz were kicked out of Ger and had their lives ruined for speaking quietly. Can you imagine what would happen to anyone who speaks loudly?

Even the harmless and softspoken Rabbi Wikler from Kashrus Magazine is being blackballed by the OU and others. The OU is furious that he believes there was a cover up at Le Marais and has threatened to fire any employee who speaks to him.

[Archie Bunker]

Actually, I retract that somewhat.

UOJ inspired over 1000 angry calls to the Brooklyn DA's office to extradite Mondrowitz. That is a form of public protest.

[Anonymous]

Extradition! (from the Broadway sensation Fondler on the Roof)

Extradition, extradition! Extradition!
Extradition, extradition! Extradition!

Who, day and night, must sodomize talmidim,
tell them it's okay, behind shadowy closed doors?
And who has the right, as scoffers of the law,
to seek asylum in the Holy Land?

The Rebbeim, the Rebbeim! Extradition!
The Rebbeim, the Rebbeim! Extradition!

Who must know the way to run a yeshiva,
A quiet yeshiva, a kosher yeshiva?
Who must squirrel away all the sexual abuse,
To perpetuate the torah way?

The hanhala, the hanhala! Extradition!
The hanhala, the hanhala! Extradition!

At three, I learned the alef bais.
At four, my balls were fondled.
I hear they found the bastard.
I hope he rots in hell.

The talmidim, the talmidim! Extradition!
The talmidim, the talmidim! Extradition!

And who is it that makes sure
that whatever comes to pass,
molesters of children
will get it up their ass?

The zroya netuyah! Extradition!
Of the law! The law! Extradition!

[Elan Daniel]

My ex-wife fled with all my 3 room full of things and jewellery to usa on 7 th May 2008 when the warrant was issued how can I bring her back as the case is still going on in Rabbanot.My tel:0528-162476.e-mail:danielilan1@walla.com

[Shmarya]

The Government of Israel must ask for extradition. Your attorney should be able to force the Government to do this.

[A. Nuran]

OK, let's start with the simple stuff:

Forget all the Hebrew words. Lose the shteimel, the beard, the books and the Sages. Let's consider this for a moment as human beings who have to rely on our judgment and will face the Master of the Universe to give account for our actions.

Anyone who does these horrible crimes deserves to die. I'm a merciful man and have a Jewish heart even towards monsters, so I'd be glad to put a bullet into the back of each of their heads. Maybe they were warped by abuse in their own past. Maybe they have demons they can't control and can't get help for. A quick, painless death.

But the people who cover for them, who make excuses and threaten the victims who are brave enough to come forward?

No mercy. No excuses.

In anything a just world every man and particularly every father would be fighting for the privilege of gut shooting them over an anthill and listening to them scream for days. The sort of subhuman scum who sees evil and protects the evildoer is beneath contempt. I don't give a fuck how much Talmud they've memorized. I couldn't care less about how white the beard or black the hat. They are a disgrace to basic human decency and have forefeited the privilege of breathing G-d's good clean air.

Why in the name of all that's holy did the parents wait four fucking DECADES to turn the sorry sons of bitches over to the authorities? We knew how to prosecute molesters twenty five years ago. How blind and callous can my fellow Jews be that they let this go on so long and let these monsters go? Prosecuting despicable criminals is what the civil authorities are for. And prison is where those short-eyes baby-rapers belong, right there with the murderers, pimps, drug dealers and thieves who are their moral superiors.

I suppose it would be traditional to wish that their names and memories be erased. That's too good for them. Let their names be remembered forever as a stain on Israel, a shame on their families and a cautionary tale for the next baby-raper who comes along. For crimes like theirs there can be no t'shuva. They should be denied even the mercy of being forgotten.