Haredi Rabbi Accused Of Assault Against Black High School Honors Student Found Not Guilty – Judge: Rabbi's Actions Biased And Based On Skin Color

Zach Patberg reports for the Asbury Park Press:

Elchonon Zimmerman, an Orthodox Jewish teacher, was found not guilty Thursday of assaulting a 15-year-old black male last year.

The ruling, after a day-long trial at municipal court, capped a 15-month civil rights drama that brought rallies and racial tensions to the community.

Zimmerman, 44, was charged in May 2006 with simple assault after getting into a confrontation with Jamarr Dickerson in a predominately Orthodox neighborhood [of Lakewood]. Both parties claim the other punched first when Zimmerman, thinking Dickerson appeared suspicious walking through an alley way behind homes on Lawrence Avenue, approached him.

The judge, Scott J. Basen, said Thursday that he could not find Zimmerman guilty but did feel his actions toward Dickerson were biased and based on his skin color.

In the end, it came down to he said / he said. Because Dickerson was alone, the only 'witnesses' were haredi. Dickerson claimed haredim rushed out of an adjacent synagogue and joined Zimmerman in beating him and holding him down until police came.

Dickerson – an honors student at the local high school – was only accused by haredim of acting suspiciously by walking in broad daylight on a well-used and publicized short cut between two haredi properties. Rabbi Zimmerman confronted the youth and, according to Dickerson, attacked him while calling for help. Other haredim rushed out of the neighboring synagogue and joined in the beating. Rabbi Zimmerman claimed Dickerson punched first although, if memory serves, he did admit to attempting to block Dickerson's path and detain him before any blows were thrown.

The judge's comments are a reflection of those facts.

Comments

[yona loriner]

firt of all it wasnt ''way'' behind the houses i live on that bock and ii cat be... the allywa is too small.. and besides why did he take sucha detour to the basketball courts??????

[yona loriner]

firt of all it wasnt ''way'' behind the houses i live on that bock and ii cat be... the allywa is too small.. and besides why did he take sucha detour to the basketball courts??????

[yona loriner]

ur a sick moron..

[Nachman]

Yes!
BASED ON SKIN COLOR!
When your kids' bikes go 'missing' on a daily basis and an SHADY figure passes by your property your gut feeling is "stop this kid before he strikes again"
In my predominently white neighborhood I have caught quite a few 'bike thieves' RED HANDED (yes, the kids were already had stolen property IN THEIR HANDS) just by 'PROFILING' (and a hunch...) I know... they were just trying to look into my kitchen window to see what time it is...

Common Shamrya, you know better than that. Stop playing dumb.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Shmarya is purposely lying by referring to the most vague and inaccurate account he could find of what happened. This fits more than one agenda of his. He's not just manipulating the news or promoting someone else's inaccurate version but he gets to bash Haredim who had a confrontation with his beloved melanin-endowed folks.

According to other accounts, which I have verified with bystanders, there was an ongoing problem with tresspassers. Zimmerman attempted to photograph Dickerson with his cellphone which is when Dickerson physically attacked him.

Let's see if Shmarya has enough honesty and integrity to investigate this and post an update. I for one am not holding my breath.

[Nachman]

Previous post has some typos. Sorry

[Anonymous]

Too bad for Shmarya that he couldn't act as judge, jury and executioner in a pro-Negro kangaroo court to lynch the Haredi rabbi.

The judge of course still had to make some politically correct statements about Dickerson's skin color to pander to the NAACP and others.

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070824/NEWS/708240361/1070/NEWS02

(Judge) Basen cited several contradictions in Dickerson's testimony as one reason for finding Zimmerman not guilty.

"I am satisfied that there was an element of self-defense and an element of misunderstanding and that Mr. Zimmerman was attempting to restrain (Dickerson) until police got there," Basen said in his ruling.

During the trial, Zimmerman, a private school teacher, testified that he had left his synagogue and was walking to his house on Lawrence Avenue when he saw Dickerson turn into the private alley "looking behind him in a suspicious manner" and "walking with an exaggerated swagger."

When Zimmerman approached him holding out a cell phone, Dickerson swatted the phone, swore and hit him in the lip, according to Zimmerman. That's when Zimmerman held Dickerson face down in a choke hold until police arrived.

Zimmerman said he and others had been on "heightened alert" because of a then-unsolved sexual assault of an Orthodox girl that occurred in the area about 10 days earlier.

[avrohom]

scotty,

the RACIST ANTISEMITE WHO WILL CTRITICIZE FOR NO ENDS THE ACQUITALL BY A COURT OF LAW OF A HAREDI and BASH HAREDIM FOR ACTING IN SELF DEFENSE AS THE JUDGE ACKNOELDGED!

It was expected: this vile antisemite lauds the expulsion off 9,000 jews DEFENDS A NAZI OFFICCER so he is impulsed to criticize a self defense act by a haredi!

[Shmarya]

Funny you don't mention the verbal attacks against blacks by haredim that preceded this physical attack.

The original APP articles from last year noted that Dickerson told Zimmerman not to take his picture and to leave him alone. RAbbi Zimmerman persisted in taking the picture and harassing Dickerson. When Dickerson resisted, Zimmerman called for help and restrained the boy.

In most of the US, what Zimmerman did was a crime even by his own account.

[Anonymous]

It's just par for the course that Shmarya wants to nail a NJ Haredi by standards from another state. How can he live with himself if a Haredi is not crucified after an altercation with his favorites, the Negroes.

There's only one little problem though. Zimmerman would not be guilty in another state either because he has a right to photograph a tresspasser. Since Shmarya thinks everyone except Haredim have rights, he twists and distorts this as illegal "harrassment".

There may have been epithets uttered by others in the crowd but that is not Zimmerman's problem. It would only be Zimmerman's problem if he and the other Haredim originally formed a group. He is not responsible for bypassers no matter how much Shmarya wants to nail all Haredim.

Shmarya is also totally unconcerned that MANY of Lakewood's Blacks are shouting anti-Semitic epithets at every opportunity and have severely beaten countless Jews over the years including some who endured lengthy hospital stays. Not to mention all the home invasion robberies and so on.

SHmarya should go kiss the butt of the nearest Black person and come back with a better story.

[Shmarya]

What the judge ruled is that being a racist is not illegal and the evidence regarding the physical confrontation is too weak to support conviction because Dickerson was alone.

[Anonymous]

And of course in a "he said, she said" situation, Shmarya will ALWAYS believe a Negro over a rabbi.

Judges make politically correct postures and statements for public consumption about race all the time. That's what the problem is.

Funny how SHmarya has a topsy turvy angle on everything in his alternate universe.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya is creepily dishonest.

Here is what the judge actually said that didn't make it through Torqemada's, I mean Shmarya's censor:

"I am satisfied that there was an element of self-defense and an element of misunderstanding and that Mr. Zimmerman was attempting to restrain (Dickerson) until police got there," Basen said in his ruling.

[Shmarya]

And of course in a "he said, she said" situation, Shmarya will ALWAYS believe a Negro over a rabbi.

I will believe what is plausible based on the available evidence, just as the judge did when noting the elements of racism in Rabbi Zimmerman's actions.

You, however, will always view a haredi rabbi as correct and any opponent as incorrect as is clearly shown in your many comments here.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya has absolutely no knowledge of my opinions to state I will always side with a rabbi. I am critical of the Lakewood rabbi who got into the scuffle with the cop - even though I believe the cop is lying, the rabbi seemed to have sparked the fight.

I believe that Zimmerman is innocent based on what I heard from bystanders and what I read in articles that Shmarya selectively ignores. This from the same Shmarya who deeply delves into articles written by Haredim to catch them on every tiny discrepancy.

[Anonymous]

A sampling of my comments also shows how I have excorciated corrupt rabbis like Tannenbaum et al.

[Anonymous]

Ok folks, grab a blanket and pillow. Shmarya almost never gives up from getting in the last word. He can't admit it when he's wrong you see which results in a long tortured thread.

[avrohom]

the judge says in this case, there was self defense and the antisemite scott defends his excoriating a victim by his racist bigoted ideology.

Instead of hiding your dirty face because of your constant antisemitic bashing you dig your self more and more in the antisemitic garbage.

[Shmarya]

I believe that Zimmerman is innocent based on what I heard from bystanders and what I read in articles that Shmarya selectively ignores.

Those would be the original articles linked in my original post from last year. In other words, not only do I not "selectively ignore" them, I posted on them.

Again, the judge found the initial confrontation was racially based. Process that.

[Noclue]

Well, obviously, if a Yeshiva kid with a black hat had cut across the lawn or whatever, the incident would not have taken place. This is apparently what the judge meant and is undeniable, in any case.

So what? Who ever thought otherwise? That does not make Zimmerman a racist or even wrong in his actions. (For the record, I have no idea who aws right or wrong, and neither did the judge who heard the testimony).

[Lev]

Yoni, Anon and Avraham, you right, guys, 100%.
Bekitzur, if the State of New Jersey township would be as much Italian as it is Jewish,like Lakewood, NO "AFRICAN-AMERICAN(?)would be in the vicinity.
They call us "f----ing Jews", Italians are "Guido motherf----ers".
They hate both, but are not afraid of Jews and VERY afraid of Italians.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya is a fraud who is completely transparent. At least Stormfront, Aryan Network, etc, tell you upfront their purpose in twisting every news item.

Ok, so big deal that he linked to an indirect link to an old newsclip. He conveniently leaves out those details in Aug. 2007 as he tries to smear Zimmerman and the Lakewood Haredim with selective items. Shmarya is making a bogus excuse in any case since he did not excerpt any details from this week's articles that would have put Zimmerman in a more favorable light. As usual, Shmarya engages in verbal acrobatics when he's pressed for the facts.

I also agree that had the tresspasser been an impeccably groomed platinum blonde kid wearing a uniform from Exeter Academy, things would not have escalated.

Racial profiling in airports of Arabs exists because of reasonable suspicions. If you apply Shmarya's hands off approach that he craves with Lakewood's Blacks, we'd be having 9/11s on a regular basis. I have also seen airport security agents wave through yeshiva boys and white gentiles while turning Black passengers from Jamaica upside down looking for drugs. Of course if a Black passenger then assaults a TSA agent, you could say he was initially stopped because of the color of his skin.

To the extent that Shmarya is worried about the Negro race, you'd think he might give himself an ulcer.

[Treifalicious]

"When your kids' bikes go 'missing' on a daily basis and an SHADY figure passes by your property your gut feeling is "stop this kid before he strikes again"" - Nachman

You see, what is racist here is that this Black (NOT "Negro" - what is this, 1960?) kid is ASSUMED to be "a shady figure" before opening his mouth or anything. If that kid were white, Zimmerman and the guys who helped him beat this kid up would have looked for more evidence that the kid was shady and probably left him alone. For the Haredim of Lakewood (and in most places, unfortunately) being Black is enough to make someone a shady figure - and THAT is racism.

Likewise, if you were Black living in a neighborhood where people assumed you were a shady figuire just for walking down the street, it would trigger counter-hatred that if you were Jewish would look and sound a lot like anti-Semitism. Perhaps the antisemitism is a reaction to the racism.

Granted, the racism these Haredim display is not unique to Haredim as we see all the time with the high incidence of DWB (Driving While Black - where Black people of all socioeconomic levels are stopped by the police for no good reason, sometimes in their own neighborhoods if they live in a neighborhood that people think is too good for Black people to be living in). AMerica is racist in general and Haredim have absorbed their fair share, ifnot more than their fair share considering their general fear and suspicion of the non-Haredi world.

But sometimes, I think that Haredim like this should just own up to their racism and just join the KKK or something. Some white supremacist groups are actively considering reaching out to Jews if they aren't already. Then the Haredim will truly be in their own element.

Or better yet, Haredim could start their own "Jewish White Supremacists" group. This way, everyone will know where they stand. They had just better say away from me - but then come to think of it, they most definitely will stay away from me anyway.

[Isa]

Regarding:
""""But sometimes, I think that Haredim like this should just own up to their racism and just join the KKK or something. Some white supremacist groups are actively considering reaching out to Jews if they aren't already. Then the Haredim will truly be in their own element. """
Then Jewish six pointed stars could be doused with gasoline and set aflame!!

[yona loriner]

a big sham!!!!!

[Lev]

Treifalicious, I come from the very bottom of Hareidi world, but unlike you, I know its history in America.
Hareidim ALWAYS lived with Blacks in all neighbourhoods, and still live now in Kensington(part of Boro Park).
Before Soviet spies like Malcolm X and Farrahan showed up, Black-Hareidi relationship were GOOD, and mostly still are GOOD.
Do you remember who send South Bronx kid named Colin Powell to West Point?
P.S. Hareidim are the ONLY white minority that calls Blacks "blacks".
Other whites continue call them "niggers".

[Shmarya]

Completely false. You confuse regular Orthodox Jews with haredim and you are either ignorant or willfully ignorant of the very real racism in the haredi world.

[Lev]

Shmarya, as I said many times, I don't argue with you on the topics of "Orthodox", "Hareidim", unless I was somehow abused by them(and I was).
What else is false???
Do you think or somehow know that Italians/Irish call black people something other then "niggers"?
(Hollywood avoids that word( but "f" is every second), but listen to Jack Nicolson charachter opening monologue in "Departed"

[Anon]

At most, Zimmerman is guilty of racial profiling. That is not illegal for a private citizen and in my view should be legal for law enforcement as well. Its a hell of a lot less then Shmarya's guilty until proven innocent approach to haredim.

[Anonymous]

Lakewood's Negroes came to town as hotel workers as Lakewood was an old resort town prior to the commercial aviation age. They first went beserk in the 1960s just because other Negros were rioting in Newark & Detroit. The National Guard came in to smash their heads again in the 1970s when they went beserk a second time for no apparent reason.

When the Jews starting growing in numbers in the 1980s and started encroaching on the "other" side of town, the Negros started throwing rocks through Jewish windows, just missing several infants in their cribs.

Throughout the 1990s, gangs of unprovoked Negros repeatedly surrounded and attacked Jews, beating them to a bloody pulp. Rabbonim gave permission to carry mace & stun guns on Shabbos with no eruv. That and the current decade also saw countless home invasions and burglaries - Negro on Jewish crime.

Shmarya will probably get bent out of shape figuring out some bogus way to blame the Jews for bringing it on themselves.

[pushkina]

One of the most horrible things to me about Jewish blogs in general is the permission that anonymous Jews give themselves to be as racist as they can be.

When I read such dreck as I have read above, I believe that even I (who have worked at the wiensethal center 'hunting' nazis,have worked for my entire life for the Jewish comunity, who currently works to get survivors the funds and assistance they need and deserve) could become an anti-semite easily.

Haredim call black folks niggers with the same frequency as an other white folks. Thanks to the might of the US media all over the world, they do it everywhere. Here in Australia, there is even a football stadium named "Nigger Brown" stadium.

Having been born black and Jewish in the US, I've been called a nigger my entire life: by my yekkish relatives, shul members; in Brooklyn a 'shvartzer kike' by my Boro Park neighbors; "chernozhopy" by our soviet bretheren; and there have been others and I am tired.

At least here in Oz, there is no DWB offence but racism (and colorism) are alive and well here in the Jewish community too.

I don't know about the boy and zimmerman; if there were no credible witnesses then it was a he said / he said; that is a point in law. but having experienced being pulled over by a pre-OJ mark furman, having been accused of crimes when i wasn't even in the area at the time (and not even the color of the eventually discovered culprit!), having been stared at by jews like some of you all my entire life, I can say this: you don't get it.

on such an issue, you/the haredim are just totally pathetic.

[robins]

Take a look at this guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayer_Schiller

[Anonymous]

It probably won't be long before Shmarya attacks G-d himself and/or claims the Bible and Talmud are forgeries.

There are certain facts of life that give Shmarya the heebie geebies.

Arur Kenaan eved lamo.

Tanu Rabbonon: CHamisha tzivos tziva Kenaan es banav, ohev es hagezel ...

[avrohom]

Lev,

I hope you understand by now that the owner of the blog (And many of the commenters of this sheketz place) hate observant jes with a passion. They are antisemites who hate to see places of observant jews floursih with yeshivos and batey medrash grow with yiddishe kinderlech with tzitzis and peyos. They would love to see Zimmerman beaten by the trespasser and they would not hae done a thing (AS these secular antisemites did NOTHING!!! BUT NOTHING!!! BY THE MODERN CROWN HEIHTS RIOTS!!!!!).

Please oopen your eyes that all differences that you have with other observant jews should nto be settled by a blog who devoes his whole existence to bash ALL gedolyey yisorle. It is not RAbbi LAzar that he is after; and not only my REbbe; he is after all gedoyley yisroel, he will not only tzcheppe Rav ELiyashiv. and evey haredi rov alive today..he will go back and curse Reb Elcohnon YHD ...he will go back to Alter Rebbe, Arizal, Beys YOsef, Abaye Rovo, REb Shimon Bar Yochay....he and the pother vile antisemites of this sheketz blog can't stand a frummer yid who reminds them of Abaye and ROvo...They can't stand the fact that these jews perptuate bris miloh, schita, limiud hatorah, "As we knew it"!

He is determined to beshmuts everything jewish by putting everying on the worse liht (and he is not interested in the values themselves; his only interest is) NO YID SHOULD CONTINUE LIMUD HATORAH AND KIYUM HAMITZVOT AS WE "KNEW IT"!

and at the end this antisemites will DEFEND A NAZI OFFICCER AND HIS FRIENDS (SOME OF THEM CLAIM TO WORK IN WIEZENTHAL HUNTING NAZIS) WILL NOT SAY A WORD TO THIS SONEY YISROEL!

[Isa]

Here in Texas, I have a concealed gun permit as well other 'stuff' in case of a home invasion (which I do not ever expect). If I see someone bang my car which a sledgehammer CALL THE COPS- If someone is lurking OUTSIDE my house CALL THE COPS. If someone is suspicious and is walking down the sidewalk CALL THE COPS. If ONLY if someone is inside your house do you then have the OPTION to use deadly force.I have been here in Texas for 4 years and NEVER heard the 'N'word. I have met some blacks here and they are hard core rightwing- law and order types. Some here use, on this blog use the excuse of previous acts as justification. THAT IS THE NAZI EXCUSE!!! The Nazis trully believed that Jews caused them to lose WWI. solution? Kill them all.

[Treifalicious]

"Soviet spies like Malcolm X and Farrahan" - Lev

HUH?!?!?!?

[Lev]

Shmarya, you called my post "completly false".
I want to add something.
Treifalicious comment is seen above.
My simple advice: read the books by Soviet defectors Golitsyn and Lunev and others.
The KGB under THIS name was created in 1954.
The MAIN TASK, that btw, didn't change today, is UNDERMINING OF THE MAIN ADVERSARY--US OF A!
Who are the best for this role? Rase-biters like Malcolm XYZ, Farrahan, Hijackson, Sharpton, et al.
They all hate kikes but none of them ever encounter hareidim!
They also undermine the CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER of th country.
Treifalicious, I know I can't help; but Shmarya, you understand the methods and practices of the MODERN espionage!
Dear Pushkina, sorry on behalf of my people for c-------y comment. Isa, you are correct 100%(I say it from personal knowledge).
Avrohom, boruch Hashem, we agree on something!.
P.S. Shmarya and Pushkina! In Brooklyn I knew an elderly Soviet Jew named Mikhail Rubin(I don't know whether he is still around).
He had, Shmarya AND Avrohom, MANUSCRIPTS OF THE GREATEST HISTORIAN OF UKRAINIAN--JEWISH RELATIONSHIP PROFESSOR SOLOMON LURIE of the Lviv and Odessa Universities.
I don't know about Jacob Katz with his "European" generalisations, but late Professor knew perfect Ukrainian, Russian(quite different) and Yiddish.
He definetly did not just condemn Ukrainians for "genetic"(you right, it's Big Lie) antisemitism, but he is not translated into English, is he?
.

[Treifalicious]

Lev, the Cold War is SO, like, 20 years ago.

I am not and never was afraid of the Russians or Communism (thought it was a corrupt system that would eventually collapse under its own weight and bad theory).

I would argue that Islamic Fundamentalism is a bigger threat nowadays.

That being said, sometimes I think Russia and Putin get a rise out of antagonizing the West, like cheeky teenagers. But a serious threat? Nah.

Say, Lev, are you an immigrant from the former Soviet Union?

>>In most of the US, what Zimmerman did was a crime even by his own account.

As a lawyer, I am eager to know what you mean by this.

[Anonymous]

To the above lawyer,

When you put Shmarya on the spot, he will either ignore the question or spin a web of confused mumbo jumbo that doesn't directly address your query. He may insult you on top of it to diminish your credibility with his readers.

[Lev]

Treifalicious, I AM an immigrant from the Hell called Soviet Union.
COLD WAR IS NOT OVER!
How else to explain YELTSYN-DEMOCRAT! appointment of Evgeniy Primakov, imah shmoi, former Jew and A HARD LINE COLD WARRIOR to be a Prime Minister in 1998-1999.
Who supports Islamic Fundamentalists against the West?
Right: China and RUSSIA.
Nothing really changed besides pornographisation and like of all country.
The place still has plenty of ICBM and other strategic weaponry.
Whose hands will they go?
P.S. Always try to check: kremlin.ru, mid.ru, fsb.ru, svr.gov.ru.
There are numerous vicious antisemitic websites,supposedly prohibited under fictious "Law against Extremism"

[Shmarya]

>>In most of the US, what Zimmerman did was a crime even by his own account.

As a lawyer, I am eager to know what you mean by this.

Rabbi Zimmerman approached a youth who was walking through a known and publicly used shortcut, which in many localities has the status of a partial easement.

The Rabbi had no fiduciary or ownership relationship with the property.

The youth had done nothing illegal.

Rabbi Zimmerman attempted to do two things:

1. Take the youth's picture without permission and over the youth's specific objection.

2. Detain the youth.

In absence of criminal behavior by the youth and in absence of any legal right by Rabbi Zimmerman to "protect" property, Rabbi Zimmerman acted illegally (in many jurisdictions).

Rabbi Zimmerman contented that he attempted to detain the youth only after the youth tried to block Rabbi Zimmerman from taking his picture.

But no one has the right to go up to another person and take their picture without permission, unless that person is:
1. Trespassing on clearly demarcated private property,

2. Is in a store or other commercial or private enterprise or on its property where the use of cameras is clearly posted,

3. Or if the person being photographed is involved in a crime or a crime scene.In this case, none of these conditions applied.

In many jurisdictions, that would make what Rabbi Zimmerman did a crime (although in many of them it would be a misdemeanor).

[Anonymous]

So because some Blacks who have no respect for people's property are cutting through private land, that makes it a partial easement? It was a private alley behind a private home. That's grounds to call 911 and have the tresspasser removed if not criminally charged.

At least Shmarya is entertaining as he keeps making up this stuff as he goes along.

[Shmarya]

No. It was a shortcut frequently used by the public. No one disputes this. It was not labeled as private property and there were no "No Trespassing" signs.

Because the owners allowed the public to use the alley, the alley becomes, in many jurisdictions, an easement.

At any rate, the owner loses his right to claim private property as a defense for detaining or harassing someone walking through it, as long as that person is not violating any laws while he passes through.

[Anonymous]

As usual Shmarya is making gross misrepresentations of the facts to demonize Haredim.

I found out exactly where this incident took place in the Lawrence-Squankum area of Lakewood.

The path was NOT a known short cut. There are 20 homes in front of it, 10 on each side, and not even all of those homeowners would benefit from any "short cut". The path could potentially lead someone into the middle of the complex which is entirely Jewish. An outsider would be going completely out of his way in using the path.

In other words, this path is very limited and would only benefit a few residents of an entirely Jewish complex. This must drive Shmarya mad that Orthodox Jews would dare take a picture of and subdue a physically violent Negro attacker who had NO business being there.

Unknown to Shmarya because it was not reported by the politically correct press, is that there had been a rash of bicycle thefts in that area by Negros.

There is no "easement" except in Shmarya farshtupte kop whereby his brain cells are being poisoned with virulent hatred.

[Shmarya]

Sigh. It is not the "PC" press that is the problem here – it is your racism.

As for the shortcut, one of things, I believe, Rabbi Zimmerman's defense acknowledged was its very public and frequent use.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya believes in many falsehoods. Someone who attended the trial tells me that the "shortcut" issue never even came up in court.

What's Shmarya's next stab at keeping his charade going?

[Anonymous]

"It is not the "PC" press that is the problem here – it is your racism."

Sounds like a line straight out of the Amsterdam News, edited by another self-hating Jew, the product of the Black Bill Tatum and a Jewish mother. If Shmarya has any shot at a shidduch, they would make a great couple and enjoy anti-Semitic orgies with each other. This is perfect as Shmarya seems to be more fond of the melanin endowed.

[Shmarya]

Shmarya believes in many falsehoods. Someone who attended the trial tells me that the "shortcut" issue never even came up in court.

Really? If the shortcut was what you said it is, and the circumstances as you 'report,' it should have come up.

Why? It would have been in Rabbi Zimmerman's defense.

If it truly did not come up, it must be that Rabbi Zimmerman has a very incompetent attorney.

Either that, or you, again, have no idea what you are talking about.

I go for door number two on this one.

[Shmarya]

"It is not the "PC" press that is the problem here – it is your racism."

Sounds like a line straight out of the Amsterdam News, edited by another self-hating Jew, the product of the Black Bill Tatum and a Jewish mother. If Shmarya has any shot at a shidduch, they would make a great couple and enjoy anti-Semitic orgies with each other. This is perfect as Shmarya seems to be more fond of the melanin endowed.

You are a very sick man.

[Anonymous]

To be absolutely clear, I should have said I was told that it never came up in the Negro's defense that he was using a known shortcut. Probably because the Negro's lawyer is smart enough not to invoke Shmarya's preposterous opinion that creates an "easement" that exists nowhere except in the imagination.

[Anonymous]

Is Shmarya not sick when he displays such callous and arrogant behavior toward Jews who are just trying to protect themselves and their property. Shmarya sides with the outsiders at any cost, especially that of the truth.

How could anyone be so perverse and obtuse?

[Shmarya]

To be absolutely clear, I should have said I was told that it never came up in the Negro's defense that he was using a known shortcut.

I believe it did not "come up" because it is an accepted and known fact.

Is Shmarya not sick when he displays such callous and arrogant behavior toward Jews who are just trying to protect themselves and their property. Shmarya sides with the outsiders at any cost, especially that of the truth.

Shmarya finds racism repugnant and notes that haredim – like Anonymous* – frequently express and act on same.

*Here is a recent racist quote from our Anonymous haredi Klansman:

Sounds like a line straight out of the Amsterdam News, edited by another self-hating Jew, the product of the Black Bill Tatum and a Jewish mother. If Shmarya has any shot at a shidduch, they would make a great couple and enjoy anti-Semitic orgies with each other. This is perfect as Shmarya seems to be more fond of the melanin endowed.

[Treifalicious]

Shmarya - why do you bother to entertain people like this Anonymous (hmph - anonymous as one might be while dressed in a hood and sheets) or even this Lev (who yes, has a different perspective, but as osmeone who has met and even dated numerous Russian immigrants in Israel the former Soviet Union was a truly F***ED UP PLACE (and it was primarily f***ed up by Stalin) and so his ravings merit some patience and understanding.

If people hate the Haredim, sometimes it's just your own hatred of everyone else that is not Haredi that is just reflecting back to you. Put some love out there, and it will come back to you as well. Now I understand that the Jewish people, especially in Eastern Europe where the Haredi movements come from and stay very close to culturally, received a lot of hatred and so maybe they are reflecting back centuries of hatred from the various Poles and Russians from whom they constantly suffered attack. But at some point you have to stop and put down your anger lest it destroy you from inside. I fear that for the Haredim it is too late on this score.

[Noclue]

Actually, a person has an absolute right to take the picture of anyone unless there is a specific ordinance banning it. You may not use the picture of someone commercially and even this prohibition has its limitations.

Since there is (I presume, correct me if I am wrong) no law against taking a picture of a person in Lakewoood, it follows that Rabbi Zimmerman was not the agressor if he reacted properly to a person's attempt to intefere with his photography.

[Anonymous]

Of course Zimmerman was not the aggressor. Shmarya is full of hatred against Zimmerman's kind which is why he uses every ounce of his being to present lies and gross exaggerations.

Shmarya is being ludicrous by saying the "easement" defense wasn't invoked by the Negro because it goes without saying. Anyone who goes down to the location will see there is no "short cut" or path that would help any outsider. Shmarya is building a "case" against Zimmerman and Haredim in general based on a scenario that doesn't exist.

Shmarya will make such ridiculous accusations based on falsehoods because he is a FRAUD who only seeks to villify Orthodox Jews, regardless of the facts.

[Shmarya]

Again, many press reports at the time of the incident labeled the alley a "shortcut" and noted that shortcut was widely used by area residents.

There was no dispute by Rabbi Zimmerman or others from the haredi community at that time.

If the area in which the incident took place was effectually private, meaning it was used only or predominantly by the owners of that property, then the youth would have been clearly trespassing.

But, again, it was a well-known shortcut used by many people with no ownership or fiducuary connection to the property.

The only reason the youth was stopped is that the youth was identifiably non-Jewish.

[Anonymous]

"Melanin endowed" was a term frequently used by radio personality Bob Grant. Despite constant whining from Al Sharpton and others, the Liberal ABC network would not stop it. After Negro interests got to Senator Frank Loutenberg who used his powerful position with the Transportation Committee to pressure Amtrak to stop placing commercials, the pressure on Grant started to mount, but ABC would still not stop it. ABC parent Walt Disney finally caved after pressure from the arm chair Liberals at the NY Times after initial reports from a plane crash site indicated there was a sole survivor, which Grant hoped out loud was not the Negro Commerce Secretary in the Clinton cabinet, Ron Brown.

Terminating Grant only propelled him from a regional audience to a new network that aired him nationally.

The Wall St Journal makes snide remarks all the time referring to skin color, double standards and yes, the Liberal "mainstream" media.

Shmarya must be getting acid reflux reading this.

And why does he take offense at my shidduch proposal. There is no prohibition to marry a Jewish woman who happens to be Black. I was suggesting that he would probably find that to be a preferential arrangement given his affinity for Black folks. You see, there are three reasons I can think of why a White man would marry a Black woman. 1. Because they wish to embody the ultimate Liberal act. 2. Because they share interests and are figuratively colorblind. 3. Because there is some kind of physical attraction for opposites. Shmarya would be enamored with Tatum's daughter for the first two reasons if not all three.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya won't let go of this fraud that he's promoting.

I looked up the press reports from 2006. It was the Negro tresspasser in cahoots with the NAACP who claimed to be taking a "short cut". They wisened up before making such bogus claims under oath in court.

Another detail I have learned now is that Zimmerman started by asking the Negro what he was doing there as the Negro was just lingering and not even walking along the so called "short cut".

Give it up Shmarya, you're looking more desperate & pathetically fraudulent with every keystroke.

[Shmarya]

Actually, a person has an absolute right to take the picture of anyone unless there is a specific ordinance banning it.

That is not true, especially if the person objects.

That there are specific no criminal penalties does not mean you therefore have a "right."

[Shmarya]

I looked up the press reports from 2006. It was the Negro tresspasser in cahoots with the NAACP who claimed to be taking a "short cut". They wisened up before making such bogus claims under oath in court.

That "claim" was backed up by the reporters who wrote those stories and saw the scene.

Further, you'll note that Rabbi Zimmerman does NOT contemporaneously deny this.

Another detail I have learned now is that Zimmerman started by asking the Negro what he was doing there as the Negro was just lingering and not even walking along the so called "short cut".

That "detail" seems to have been "learned" a year after the incident when Rabbi Zimmerman realized the story as he originally told it might actually land him in jail.

[Shmarya]

"Melanin endowed" was a term frequently used by radio personality Bob Grant. Despite constant whining from Al Sharpton and others, the Liberal ABC network would not stop it. After Negro interests got to Senator Frank Loutenberg who used his powerful position with the Transportation Committee to pressure Amtrak to stop placing commercials, the pressure on Grant started to mount, but ABC would still not stop it. ABC parent Walt Disney finally caved after pressure from the arm chair Liberals at the NY Times after initial reports from a plane crash site indicated there was a sole survivor, which Grant hoped out loud was not the Negro Commerce Secretary in the Clinton cabinet, Ron Brown.

Terminating Grant only propelled him from a regional audience to a new network that aired him nationally.

So it's okay to be racist as long as ABC keeps you on the air?

Please.

Get your white sheet, go on parade and leave normal people alone.

Shmarya,you are 100% incorrect.

If there is no law (statutory or common) against something, including the laws of privacy and trespass, then you have a legal right to do that thing, even if somebody objects. This is so elementary that it does not bear discussion. In fact, there was a recent case where a court held that a photographer could sell an unauthorized photograph of an individual because it constituted a work of art.

I suggest you consult a competent attorney before you give legal advice.

[Anonymous]

The Fraud Detector is beeping in overdrive at each of Shmarya's absurd comebacks.

So let's get this straight. A number of days ago Shmarya falsely accused Zimmerman of criminal harrassment. Now Shamrya is trying to weasel out of it and still save face by claiming it is still criminal but without penalties.

Shmarya would be hard pressed to find any penal code in the US or perhaps the planet that advises of a criminal act that carries no penalty.

Shmarya is engaging in his favorite hobby again of making up stories to crucify Haredim as he goes along.

By extension, according to Shmarya who is off his rocker, no one could ever take a picture in crowded place in case someone might object.

SHmarya, who criticizes journalists all the time for inaccurate / sloppy reporting, is suddenly sure they must be correct when a rabbi is being cast as the bad guy.

Zimmerman does deny that it is a shortcut because he would be insane to describe a non-shortcut as such. Oh and Shmarya must have phoned Zimmerman to get his side of the story - NOT.

The detail of the Negro lingering was not invented in 2007. It was reported at the time in 2006 as can be read on the web. The only person here who invents stories post ex facto is Shmarya.

What kind of illness would lead a person to go beyond hatred to the point of spending his days and nights trying to falsely incriminate religious Jews?

Does anyone know if Shmarya has ever tried seeking professional help?

[Shmarya]

Courts can and have understood a person's right to privacy to include freedom from unwanted picture-taking.

A public figure by nature of his "publicness" loses that right. A private individual does not.

[Anonymous]

If Shmarya objects to referencing the pigmentation of the Negro race, that's his problem. It does not meet any legal definition of racism. The Politically Correct Stormtroopers out there decide about every ten years that what Black people themselves ask to be called is no good anymore and is forbidden to vocalize. Their preferences went from Negro to Colored to Black to African-American. Soon they will demand to be called something else with their shlock shamess Shmarya carrying their bags behind them.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya is as predictable as a clock. He is trying to cloud the issue now with his hairsplitting and invoking narrow examples to make it appear he is correct.

Public officals are NOT the only ones to lose that right. Far from it.

[noclue]

"Courts can and have understood a person's right to privacy to include freedom from unwanted picture taking."

What courts and under what circumstances? If the above statement is true, and is applicable to the facts at hand, then it should be easy to cite the name of the case, the court which issued the decision and where that decision is reported.

If you have such a cite, supply it. If you do not, admit that you are mistaken.

[Anonymous]

The burden is on Shmarya to bring proof given that he is trying to incriminate Zimmerman, even above & beyond what the justice system did.

The brazen loser acts here as he does elsewhere that the burden is on his critics to prove their position.

Omnipotent Shmarya can never be wrong.

[Shmarya]

So let's get this straight. A number of days ago Shmarya falsely accused Zimmerman of criminal harrassment. Now Shamrya is trying to weasel out of it and still save face by claiming it is still criminal but without penalties.

No. Try to process. Shmarya claimed the following:

1. The actions of Rabbi Zimmerman were racially motivated. (The judge agrees.)

2. The jurisdiction in which this incident happens does not have specific laws foirbidding taking unwanted pictures of non-public individuals.

3. Rabbi Zimmerman harassed the youth and then took his picture over the youth's objections.

4. A physical confrontation ensued. No one other than the youth and Rabbi Zimmerman claim to have seen the beginning of that confrontation.

5. It is claimed by Rabbi Zimmerman's side that other haredim, responding to Rabbi Zimmerman's calls for help, rushed out of a neighboring building and subdued the youth.

6. Police found enough evidence to arrest Rabbi Zimmerman.

7. Prosecutors found enough evidence to charge Rabbi Zimmerman.

8. The judge agreed that Rabbi Zimmerman's actions were racially motivated. But the judge as no evidence as to who made the first physical contact.

9. Therefore, in absence of that evidence the judge ruled that Rabbi Zimmerman was not guilty.

10. If the shortcut had been clearly marked as private, if it's use had been publicly restricted rather than publicly encouraged, Rabbi Zimmerman could have used this in his defense.

A person with fiduciary or other rights to property has a greater latitude to protect it than does an person without those rights.

Rabbi Zimmerman lacked any of those rights and the shortcut's use was never publicly restricted.

[noclue]

But the question is whether Rabbi Zimmerman used legal force or illegal force. The judge found that the prosecution did not prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

The fact that the police arrested Rabbi Zimmerman and that he was prosecuted is entirely irrelevant as is the question of trespass. Picture taking is not "harrassment" under the law.

Therefore, the only question is who threw the first punch and who merely reacted. The judge could not make a determination based on the evidence and, since this not the OJ trial, Rabbi Zimmerman should be given the benefit of the doubt, as should the teenager involved.

I am still waiting for the cite about picture taking or for an admission of mistake by Shmarya.

[Anonymous]

It's obvious to any fool that Shmarya is dead set on framing Rabbi Zimmerman and will keep uttering lies and distortions until he is blue in the face.

Racial motivation, lacking any criminal charge, is a matter of opinion in this case and we all know where Shmarya's loyalties lie.

Zimmerman did NOT harrass despite the dozens of times that Shmarya repeats that lie.

No one saw the initial confrontation. Shmarya spins this as not having enough evidence to charge the rabbi. When the more probable way of putting it is that the rabbi was not charged because he was well within his rights and the Negro was not charged either due to lack of evidence. Shmarya will always pick the first choice and stick to it even if later proven wrong.

Shmarya keeps pretending there was a "shortcut" - a misnomer if ever there was one.

If the federal transportation secretary brought Shmarya down in person to show him there is NO shortcut, he would still be in denial.

Lakewood's Lawrence development has an owner's association so Zimmerman had a fiduciary duty to confront a Negro acting suspiciously. There is also an obligation for a Jew to protect the property of his fellow man. Shmarya is of the belief that getting in a Negro's way in any shape or form, would cancel that obligation even if it were to lead to theft or another criminal act.

[Shmarya]

noclue –

You are saying exactly what I am saying except for these things:

1. The judge noted Rabbi Zimmerman's actions were race-based, not threat-based.

Being a racisit is not a crime in the US.

2. The judge presides in a locale where unwanted picture taking has not been a matter of law.

As I wrote, in other jusrisdictions, this is not true.

[Shmarya]

It's obvious to any fool that Shmarya is dead set on framing Rabbi Zimmerman and will keep uttering lies and distortions until he is blue in the face.

The judge found Rabbi Zimmerman's actions to be racially motivated.

[Shmarya]

No one saw the initial confrontation. Shmarya spins this as not having enough evidence to charge the rabbi. When the more probable way of putting it is that the rabbi was not charged because he was well within his rights and the Negro was not charged either due to lack of evidence. Shmarya will always pick the first choice and stick to it even if later proven wrong.

Rabbi Zimmerman was charged. The "Negro" was not.

[NOCLUE]

THE JUDGE SITS IN A LOCALE WHERE UNWANTED PICTURE TAKING IS LAWFUL. UNWANTED PICTYURE TAKING IN A PUBLIC PLACE (EXCLUDING SUCH LOCALES AS BATHROOMS WHERE A PERSON ARGUABLY HAS AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY PERHAPS EVEN ABSENT A STATUTE) IS LAWFUL IN PRACTICALLY EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE UNITES STATES.

YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE EVEN ONE SOLITARY EXCEPTION.

I AM WAITING FOR AN ADMISION FROM SHMAYA THAT HE IS WRONG.

[NOCLUE]

sorry THAT SHOULD READ SHMARYA.

[Shmarya]

…IS LAWFUL IN PRACTICALLY EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE UNITES STATES.

Not when the subject asks not to be photographed.

[Anonymous]

Let Shmarya excerpt from somewhere that one may not photograph after an objection has been made.

The readers should not hold their breath.

[Anonymous]

There are types of racial motivations that are so low level that they are almost meaningless. The judge issued a non-binding opinion that had nothing to do with the legal ruling and which anyone has a right to disagree with.

Shmarya will not entertain any other motivations as HE is highly motivated to crucify Zimmerman.

[Noclue]

ONCE MORE, Shmarya acan not even cite even 1 (one) solitary jurisdiction where it is unlawful to photograph somebody in a public place over that person's objection.\

I am still waiting for the admission of mistake which is long overdue.

[Shmarya]

Sigh.

I'll quote you:
…IS LAWFUL IN PRACTICALLY EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE UNITES STATES.You admit it is illegal in some jurisdictions. I point out that it is illegal in far more than you understand, if the subject objects to the picture being taken.

I do not have the time or the resources to go to law library and cite case law for you.

If you think you have definitive case law to cite, cite it. Otherwise state your opinion (as you already ahve several times already) and shut up.

The case would be United States v. Kentucky, 119 F.Supp. 897 (D.C.Ky. 1954) where the Court declared that

"[t]he operation of a camera is a lawful act and a citizen's privilege to take pictures, unless made specifically unlawful by statute, is such a civil right as is protected by the Constitution of the United States."

See also 86 A.L.R.3D 374 Sect 4 stating that "[t]aking pictures of a person in a public place does not seem to violate that person's right to privacy even though it is without his consent and may disturb him. The right of aphotographer to photograph another in a public place, over that person's objection, was upheld in the following cases." (Goes on to cite cases).

Shmarya, I am still waiting for an admission that you are wrong.

[Shmarya]

But I thought you were claiming the youth was on private, rather than public property?

But you contend the location of the incident was both public and private?

Anyway, when I have time to get to a law library I'll look up contrary citations.

Actually, the cases are quite clear that as long as the photographer is not trespassing on private property he is within his rights even if the subject is on his own private prpoerty and certainly when the subject is trespassing or using some other person's private property.

ALR is a compendium of citations and the only contrary citation that they could find was an unreported case from 1890. You will not find any contrary cases because there are none.

You are wrong. Admit it like a man and move on.

[Shmarya]

How close to the subject is the photographer allowed to be?

Can he be within inches? Does he need to maintain a normal distance? Can he rush up to a subject and point the camera and click?

I think if you search a bit differently you'll find some contrary citations. You should also find jurisdictions where it is illegal by statute to do whay Rabbi Zimmerman claims to have done.

That said, it may be that you are correct and the majority of jurisdictions allow this behavior.

By the way, if the youth had been Jewish, halakha would not have supported Rabbi Zimmerman in the picture-taking.

[Anonymous]

Ha, if the youth was Jewish, no one would have been alarmed as it was Blacks who were behind a rash of bike thefts and a sexual assault. Apprehension when appropriate has become the great racist sin acording to the Liberal gods.

[Shmarya]

I used to live in Israel, much of the time in the Old City. Occasionally a lone Arab youth of that age would walk through a Jewish area. The police and border patrol did not stop these youths each time. They only stopped them if they had reason to believe that particular youth was a problem.

For the most part, barring emergency large-scale actions like temporarily closing the Temple Mount to Muslim males under a certain age, Israeli police and security personnel are much more careful in who they stop than people realize.

Profiling does not mean "stop every schvartze seen walking on a 'Jewish' block" and it does not mean stopping a kid who becomes afraid when he realizes he is being pursued for no reason by an adult he does not know.

[Noclue]

He can be any distance that it is lawful to be near a person. I know of no restrictions on how close one person can be to another (think of the subway).

It is not the majority of jurisdictions; it is all or virtually all jurisdictions that allow a person to take photographs even when the subject objects.

Rushing up, even assuming that this is what happened, is not illegal unless it is somehow threatening to a reasonable person. Nobody even suggested that the teenager felt physically threatened by the taking of the picture.

You are wrong and apparently incapable of admitting error ("[i]t may be..." does not constitute an admission).

Too bad for you.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya, did you interview Dickerson to know if he was afraid? How do you know he wasn't just aggressive from the get go?

You are sometimes thorough in that you interview people involved. In this case you have spoken to no one yet are making assumptions galore.

[Anonymous]

Faulty comparison again. When there is a terror alert in Israel they seal the border to any Arab, sometimes even women & children claiming a medical emergency.

Zimmerman had reason for concern considering the rash of thefts and the sex assault.

I can also tell you that US authorities are many time more overzealous in profiling Arabs than the Israelis are.

[Anonymous]

clarification: US authorities in many specific instances

[Shmarya]

Noclue–

We'll see. I check as soon as I can.

Anonymous –

A terror alert is a bit different from bike thefts. Further, even during terror alerts, the police only stop all Arabs fitting a specific profile and a random sampling of others.

Having lived through many of these, and having actually dealt a bit with border police and the army, I can assure you that only at the highest level of alert do the police take blanket steps against the Arab population.

Rabbi Zimmerman stopped a boy with no known criminal record. He has no known history of any problems. He has no known history of anything other than good behavior.

He stopped him because the youth is black. Period, end of story.

[Phil]

Shmarya,

Did you see this latest Lakewood travesty?

Lakewood, NJ - A 48-year-old township man is being held in the Ocean County Jail, charged with intimidating a Jewish man because of religious bias.
Donald R. Lowery of South Clover Street was arrested after Abe Buchler of Lakewood reported to police that he was confronted by a black man who yelled out "Heil Hitler" and other derogatory remarks. Buchler was standing outside Park Terrace, a catering hall at Park Avenue and Second Street where he had been attending a party for a bar mitzvah, Detective Steve Wexler said.

Officer Jonathon Wilson investigated and arrested Lowery, charging him with bias intimidation and harassment, Wexler said.
Wilson reported that Lowery appeared to be intoxicated at the time. [APP]

I think they need to arrest Buchler for his obvious bias which triggered Lowery's having to defend himself!

[Treifalicious]

"The Politically Correct Stormtroopers out there decide about every ten years that what Black people themselves ask to be called is no good anymore and is forbidden to vocalize." - Anonymous (who I suspect is also N"oclue")

Actually, Black people DO NOT call themselves "Negroes". They might call themselves "Black" but never "Negro". Even my grandfather does not used "Negro". You obviously don't know any Black folks.

Moreover, you have a really, really unhealthy obsession with said "Negroes", focusing on thei rmelanin endowment and such. Such unhealthy fixation is yet another manifestation of racism. Why can't you just not care about people's skin color?

And I suspect you don't have a job because you have time to write post after post railing about "Negroes".

Get a life, already, and leave Black people alone. More for your own good, really.

[Anonymous]

Shmarya, do you suffer from selective amnesia? I mentioned bike thefts AND a sexual assault.

If according to you, there is a specific profile instead of blanket suspicious of all blacks, certainly a teenager is capable of both those crimes. And you speak as if Zimmerman is supposed to know from the Urim veTumim about Dickerson's academic achievements yet chose to ignore it.

I have also had a chance to speak with one of Zimmerman's relatives. I was under the impression that a platinum blonde kid in an Exeter Academy uniform would not have been stopped because they are not as prone to criminal acts as a random Black teenager. The Zimmerman relative believes there would have been no difference in this case since the "shortcut" that Shmarya is trying to invent from nowhere, leads nowhere and it is been suspicious for ANY outsider to be traipsing along over there.

[Anonymous]

While Blacks do not currently call themselves Negroes, they often call each other a rather derogatory derivative of the word, which is the cardinal sin for a White person to utter according to the Liberal demigods.

The Wall Street Journal had a blast a few years ago when the Liberal Gestapo tried to terminate a school teacher who uttered the word "niggardly" which does not even have the same etymological root as the word in question.

The word Negro of course is a reference to the Negroid racial class that Blacks make up.

[Lev]

Dear Trefalicious,
First thank you for distingvishing me , who sighns by his own legal name, and Anonnimous,who should not even be on this blog according to Shmarya's rules.
I do rave but, as a "foreghnier", I spoke with many people, read many books, check the Web, including so-called "Runet", etc.
I know nothing and don't want to about this Zimmerman incident.
There are some stories and "urban legends" that Shmarya would not like, so I don't post them.
I KNOW FOR A FACT that Orthodox(Chareidi, or whatever)-Black relationship has been good in Baltimore, Cleveland Heights(btw,represented in Congress by an antisemitic black woman Tubbs-Jones, imah shmoi), Detroit subrubs of Oak Park/Southfield, even Munsey(in Prof. Dershowitz spelling in "Chutzpa").
"Rasists" do not hate black people anymore.
They HATE only Jews, and consider all of them(including baptized,atheithts like Alan Greenspan) to be...Chareidim...LOLL!
Check David Duke's s--t.
This slime got "Ph.D." from antisemitic Ukrainian college for his perfect record of kike-hating. All my other "ravings", Trefalicious, are already expressed on the different posting on this blog, by my own name only.
As I said, I am copping out because of the misunderstandings and disagreements with the Moderator.
You mentioned my name, I had to respond.

Please do not post any more of my stories unless they are verbatim. Journalism is suffering enough without subjective tampering. You provide a needed service, but you should know this.

Zach Patberg
Asbury Park Press

[Shmarya]

What in the world is wrong with you?

I posted a verbatim excerpt, and actual intact piece of your story and LINKED to the whole piece.

The problem – if there is one – is that you employer, the APP, changed the link to that piece or removed it from the Internet entirely.

If you have a complaint, it is against your employer – not against me.