Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein and Child Sexual Abuse

According to Luke Ford, Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein, a haredi, LA-based rabbi and polemicist, has this to say about blogs and abuse:

“Halakhicly, you should not read blogs. It is not our business to punish people. Vengeance is not a Jewish idea except for in a court of law.”

“In some cases, a cover-up is not the worst thing.”

“Discretion is not the worst thing.”

“Cities should put together a special law court, beit din, for issues of abuse. Chicago put together a special beit din for issues of abuse. I guess there will be such a thing in Los Angeles.”

“Journalistic exposure is a last resort. The zeal to go after an accused abuser [often leads to bad results].”

While it is true Adlerstein dismisses the idea that halakha forbids going to police or warning others about abusers, his "solution" to the abuse problem is foolish at best. This type of "solution" is what gave us 40 years of Rabbi Yehuda Kolko's abuse, and Kolko is not a lone example.

But one piece of Rabbi Adlerstein's advice is good. He holds blogs most blogs (because they traffic in 'personal destruction') should not be read. I suggest you all take him up on that by refusing to read the blog he and his fellow abuse coverup expert Avi Shafran write for.

Comments

[Ichabod Chrain]

Shamarya, some friendly advice. Sometimes maybe you go a little too far.

Do you really want to go on record as advocating boycotting a blog just because of one of the people who writes for it? I seldom read Cross Currents, but it serves a purpose for some. Even those who don't agree with the points of view expressed in it can read it to learn what prominent people in the Orthodox community are advocating, so those things can be addressed, either positively or negatively.

BTW, I hold no brief for Kolko if the allegations are true, but he's still presumed innocent until proven guilty. So better you should have said "alleged abuse"

[george]

Ichabod,

You're an asshole!

[Shmarya]

1. There are dozens of valid reasons not to read CC. Adlerstein is only the most recent.

2. Kolko has abused kids for 40 years. There are dozens of cases on record, many independent from each other, all sharing the same facts. The evidence against this man is overwhelming. I have a friend, very well-connected in the haredi world. When the Kolko story broke, he asked several trustworthy people who had attended Torah Temimah over a span of many years. Each one knew of the allegations when he was a student. Each one knew a student who had been molested by Kolko. Each one remembered adults talking about "hot Yidi" and the problem. At least two haredi rabbis named on rabbichildabuse.com have confirmed the complaints of abuse and the process surrounding them going back almost 40 years. In short, halakha mandates we view him as a real and present danger to children, not an "alleged" real and present danger.

[Ari]

On top of it, Aslerstein's remarks are incomplete to the point of being misleading (whether intentionally or out of ignorance).

I know the incident to which he refers when he reports that Chicago has set of a Beis Din to deal with the abuse issue as I was personally affected by it. The Beis Din set up as more of an ad-hoc body in order to deal with the COMMUNITY issues surrounding the incident. This was AFTER the police and Department of Children and Family Services had been involved by the school and a few rabbonim who had the courage to stand up in the face of the majority of area rabbis who wanted to cover-up and protect the perpetrator.

The Beis Din set up in that case was NOT an alternative to legal action.

[Rifka]

Did you listen to the recording of R' Adlerstein's shiur that Luke Ford posted to determine if the presentation was accurately reported? Please listen. Otherwise, I think you have done the rav an injustice.

[Shmarya]

I listened. What Luke wrote is accurate.

[Rifka]

I disagree. I invite your readers to listen to the context of the rav's remarks on halachah on reading blogs. There is a definite context as to the type of blog he is speaking of.

Also, quotation marks indicate that a person is being quoted verbatim. However, the taping differs from the text you have reproduced. Nor do you indicate gaps with ellipses. My opinion is that someone who makes contentions publicly has a responsibility to follow certain protocols.

If you still think Luke Ford is accurately reflecting R' Adlerstein's assertions about reading blogs, then please give a verbatim rendering of that section.

[Shmarya]

1. Each statement is fully enclosed in quotation marks on on a different line from the statement above or below. There is no need for ellipses.

2. If you think the statements are incorrect, post what you believe to be the correct wording.

3. Adlerstein is an Agudah hack. Want to know what that means? Read this:
http://www.rabbichildabuse.com/

[Ichabod Chrain]

George,

Thanks for your comment. It was brilliant. Did you think of it yourself or did someone help you? If it makes you happy, go ahead and don't read Cross Currents. I really don't care if you do or you don't.

Shmarya,

There are probably many reasons to be critical of what's written in CC, but urging people not to even read it is completely different.

As for Kolko, I don't know if he's guilty or not. All I'm saying is that he has a right to defend himself. He hasn't had that chance yet. That's what trials are for.

[Shmarya]

Absolutely. Let him go to trial. But with the information we now have, confirmed by multiple unrelated sources, there is no reason to do anything else other than treat him as if he were guilty. Why? Because the man is a clear and present danger to children and halakha mandates we view him with extreme caution. If he should somehow escape leagal punishment, but if the information about his abuse stil;l remains constant or worsens, we would be obligated to ban him from all contact with children.

[Lawrence M. Reisman]

The post suggest we don't read the Cross Currents blog. But the underlined "blog" sends us to an article by J. Rosenblum explicitly criticizing those who attacked Mrs. Shear on the bus. It also makes the point that Naomi Ragen, et. al. are not seeking to end the Mehadrin busses, but to keep non-mehadring busses non-mehadrin, and to force mehadrin busses to be labeled as such.

If you want to convince us not to read Cross Currents, you picked a pretty bad example of what they print.

By the way, I agree that blogs can be disgusting, but until we clean up our act without them, they will serve a necessary and useful purpose.

[Rifka]

Shmarya, chaver, I've been reading your blogging since before there was a Cross-Currents. This is the first instance where I've been able to directly compare something you've written with what actually happened, and it hurts to say this, but you come up lacking--lacking in your blanket charge (that R' Adlerstein holds that blogs should not be read), lacking in the way you present the evidence, and with your last comment, lacking ... even in character since you resort to an ad hominem attack. The direction where your logic goes in your last reply to me, whether you realize it or not, is this: Facts be damned; the man deserves to be criticized because he's an Agudah hack.

This is very hard for me to accept. The way you've argued this calls into question all your other blogging where there is no way for me to independently confirm. Please, credibility is precious. Don't squander it.

That said, thank you for inviting me to set the record straight regarding verbatim quotations, ellipses, and context. First, nowhere does the rav exactly say, "Halakhicly, you should not read blogs." Nor does he immediately follow his assertion about the reading of blogs with, "It is not our business to punish people. Vengeance is not a Jewish idea except for in a court of law."

In the taping I hear R' Adlerstein presenting a highly nuanced halachic step-by-step formula for one to determine for him or herself whether or not blogs that make claims about people within the community should be read. He begins his discussion on blogs by praising their strengths. He recognizes that they've been a means by which some individuals have been able to air honest grievances. He also praised blogs for instances where abuse has been brought to light. He followed that by listing the inherent dangers of blogs, one being that anonymity facilitates the ability of a blogger to make a spurious charge, with the one slandered having virtually no legal recourse. So what is the observant reader to do? On the one hand is the need to protect the community from a public menace balanced against hurting an innocent person.

At this point, R' Adlerstein lays out the halachic FORMULA for reading the particular kind of blog he has just described, i.e., anonymous ones that call into question individuals' reputations. As I understand him, he sets forth a default position of halachah (defined by lashon hara considerations) and immediatly follows his statement of the default position with the next halachic step. I'm not the best transcriber, but this is what I hear him say, "I will tell you that, halachicly, first of all, I think you shouldn't be reading them. If you do read them, you have an obligation to first say, Do I need to be reading this? Say, you're a parent and you want to know what's going in your community...." The rav continues with the triage of questions, guiding the prospective reader to a place of being able learn vital information from a blog but not facilitate what could be sheer slander.

I think what I describe the rav as saying is entirely different from what you intimate in your blog posting.

[Shmarya]

1. You were absolutely inccorret regarding ellipses, etc.

2. Those quotes are clearly taken from Luke's report, which is what blockquotes indicate. It is attribured that way as well. Yet you imply I gather and wrote them. You are either being intentionally misleading or you are confused about basic editing and punctuation.

3. Rabbi Adlerstein spends a lot of time critcizing blogs. The blogs he especially hates happen to be the blogs that brought the Kolko issue to the forefront and may finally get him removed from easy access to young boys. Further, his solution to the problem of abuse is a beit din modeled after the one in Chicago, which is usless. Rabbis are not trained investigators and have no police and subpoena powers. Adlerstein knows this. He is a disingenuous creep who gives lip service to doing the right thing as he advocated doing the exact opposite. Rabbis have proven themselves to be bad players inn this sad drama.

Don't like certain blogs? Those blogs are largely reactions to the failed leadership of rabbis and the dishonest behavior of those who support them. Kolko abused children for 40 years. Lanner for more than 20. And there are many more like them. The commonality in these cases is that rabbis – often the biggest rabbis – knew of the abuse but did not go to the police. They relied on handling the problem internally and on covering up the abuse. Literally hundreds of children had their lives ruined.

Tell me, where was Rabbi Adlerstein last year? Where was his advocacy to deal with this problem? He was "nowhere," just like his friend Shafran. Process that.

[Rifka]

Please, Shmarya, I've been addressing your standards all along, not Rabbi Adlerstein's. And now you try to fob off the responsibility of properly quoting the rav by pointing to Luke Ford! Yes, I know that Luke presents the statements that you duplicate as if they were made verbatim, which is PRECISELY why in my first comment, way up above, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, asking you if you had listened to the tape. When you responded that you had and that you found Luke accurate, you made yourself responsible for the quotations as well. You never clued your readers that the statements varied from the recording.

Luke at least preserves some context of the statements he presents by having "Blogs that Traffic in Personal Destruction" in his title. You drop that key phrase to make it seem as if R' Adlerstein were hypocritically insisting that, as a matter of course, blogs should not be read.

Shmarya, your reputation, your credibility, is on the line.

[Shmarya]

1. again, you erred with ellipses, blockquotes and simple editing.

2. I linked to Luke's post, quoted Luke's post, and noted that the audio file was available for listening.

3. I find Luke's representation accurate, as I wrote above.

4. Adlerstein's caveat, as you put it, is blogs that cater in "personal destruction." As I have pointed out many times, those blogs got Kolko. Adlerstein knows this. He also knows there is 40 years of CREDIBLE EVIDENCE against Kolko and 40 years of RABBIS SCREWING THAT UP.

Adlerstein wants you not to read UOJ, etc., and he blasts them – without ever dealing with this issue. He is a disingenuous man.

This is what I wrote, and what any reasonable non-apologist for Agudah and Adlerstein would understand.

[Shmarya]

Nonetheless, I clarified that section of the post, as you can read above. Now perhaps you can get Rabbi Adlerstein to address the 40 years of the Kolko coverup? Of course not.

[Rifka]

(sigh!) I write reports for a living. My advanced study was in an academic discipline from a major university in a field where learning how to report source material is key. Today I deal in purveying bankable information about people and groups. Shmarya, chaver, I'm cluing you in on the proper protocol of using ellipses and quotation marks. If your quotation marks exist because you consider the text material quoted from Luke's blog, then it's best, imo, if you let the reader know that you are reproducing a very loose paraphrase of the rabbi's presentation.

(sigh!) This will be the final time I will restate the point of my contention. I've been addressing the blogger/reader relationship you and I have, since I am YOUR reader of YOUR blog. Your posting could be talking about Idi Amin for all I care. What I've cared about is your standard of accuracy and truthfulness. From now on, when I read on FailedMessiah about Rebbe this and Rebbe that, can I trust you to be fair and objective?

But, I'll grant you this. You have succeeded in getting me curious on one point relative to the rabbi. He praises a blog for bringing an abuser to light. I haven't a clue who that would be. Do you have a best guess?

[Shmarya]

I don't care what you do for a living or what you claim to have studied. I correctly cited the story, and I correctly used ellipses. I think the difficulty here is your confusion over blockquotes.

The blog he praises for bringing an abuser to light is the same blog he tells you not to read – UOJ.

[MO MAN]

Shmarya,
I think the problem with guys like Adlerstein is that, he, like most or all rabbis, want you to get all your information from them as UOJ has alluded to in his rant against rabbis opposing the Internet.
Therefore, don't read the blogs because they lost control of the information you get.
This is more than one case of an evil rabbi, this is about the disease of pedophilia and corrupt rabbis that is all too common in the Haredi world.
This they blame on UOJ, by somehow pairing him up with Vicki with a checkered past.
UOJ, he claims, is a rabbi himself, and from what I read a rebel with a cause. A great cause i may add. He does not raise funds for himself. He hates corruption because he's a proud Jew. That's my take.

[Rifka]

But, see, this why I say that you, whether by design or ignorance, are missing the point, and therefore misleading people like Mo Man. If you are, say, a parent of vulnerable children and you apply the formula that Rabbi Adlerstein lays out, yes, not only would you be reading UOJ, you would be protecting your children to do so.

How is the rav not laying out a formula, of which you've only mentioned Step One? My third comment above gives the formula he lays out.

[Shmarya]

Very simply. What MoMan writes is spot on. Adlerstein is disingenuous. If he does not want blogs like UOJ to exist, then CLEAN UP AGUDAH. Period.

Instead, the great rabbi you shill for telss his charges not to read those blogs. (You can read Adlerstein's blog because, if you check, you'll see it does not mention names of haredi sex abusers – even when convicted.)

People need to know who these abusive predatory rabbis are. The best way to do that is on the Web. The problem is the list of haredi and Orthodox rabbis who abuse women and children is quite large. It makes the chevra look bad. So jerks like Adlerstein cover it up.

The fact is, everyone – whether they have children or not – needs to know who these rabbinic abusers are. That is what actual experts in abuse (as opposed to Adlerstein) will tell you. Adlerstein limits that knowledge to parents and schools, and to specific cases, and then in specific, "need-to-know" ways.

Process. By way of example, say there are rabbis who abused children in Flatbush. They left Flatbush after a "beit din" like the one Adlerstein wants forced them to leave. One goes to Israel, another to Canada, another to Long Island. All three continue to abuse. Flatbush has "rid itself" of these abusers by dumping them on other communities. This is exactly what the best case haredi scenario has been until now. What breaks that scenario apart is publicity. When parents in Long Island know what Rabbi X did in Flatbush, chances are Rabbi X won't be teaching at the local Long Island day school.

Adlerstein's approach, besides all the other flaws I listed above, has no database of abusers, no way to track their travels or to know where they relocate. And their is no provision to warn other communities.

Again, haredim have failed to protect their children. There is no reason to listen to haredi leaders on this issue. Go to the police. Do what you must do. Don't worry about beit dins and gedolim. The sin won't be on your head. It will be on the heads of the moetzet and their shills, including Rabbi Adlerstein.

[Shmarya]

What if you're not the parent of "vulnerable children" but are simply a neighbor? Shouldn't the neighbor know that Rabbi X is an abuser? Should the grandparents? The custodian at the school? The man who runs the pizza shop? What about in shul? What about in camp? Who gets to know and who does not?

If Rabbi x takes a vacation to Florida, who needs to know? The hotel? The shul there? The schools? Which parents? Which children?

Everyone needs to know. That is the point Rabbi Adlerstein intentionally obscures.

[MO MAN]

There is no logical reason in the world Rivka that Adlerstein should promote ignorance in any form. Reading blogs like UOJ, whose agenda is battling corruption in the Haredi world should be applauded.
He has demonstrated to be on the mark on all his allegations. I personally enjoy his colorful language, and so does everyone else. Your naive to think that Adlerstein's anti-blog agenda is honest. He has no problem giving a forum to the "Apikorus" Dennis Prager...what's your Haredi take on that?
UOJ made your kid safer, did you thank him? I did!

[Rivka]

I swear, Shmarya, you and Mo Man MUST be listening to a different recording than I am. With the taping I heard, the adult who first justifies the need to him or herself to read a certain kind of blog can do so. Yes, Shmarya, that goes for a neighbor, and grandparents, and a custodian, a parent in B'nei Barak reading about an abuser in Flatbush, etc., as long as any one of those stops long enough to mentally explain to themselves the reason why they need to . The beauty of the rav's halachic process is that it does require the adult to weigh the risk of a public menace against the gravity of lashon hara. If you think that's anti-blog, then you are misunderstanding the rav's premise.

[Shmarya]

No. You are misunderstanding it. He wants a beit din 'like the one in Chicago' to rule on abuse cases. That is his ultimate solution. the existence of such a beit din precludes going to police, reading blogs, etc.

[Rifka]

I see that Luke has made a small, but important, modification to the assertion about not reading blogs. And then he has also appended some text....

[Shmarya]

The "text" he appended is merely your assertion that Adlerstein permits what he clearly aims to forbid.

[MO MAN]

It is as clear as day what Adlerstein and his group want. PERMISSION to read something that needs permission from them!

Exactly what UOJ is going crazzzzzy about. Adults don't need permission to read blogs or go to the police. They need to use their own judgment not some rabbi who will prescribe a BS halacha like Scheinberg did.

[uncle joe mccarthy]

rav adlerstein begins his lesson by whitewashing the case of the husband who killed his wife.

i am not sure what level the group was he was speaking to, but if one is to bring up that case, then either tell the facts, or dont bring it up at all.

the reason there was "guilt" in the community, if one can even call it that, was that the rebeim not only knew about the abuse, but on numerous occasions, told the victim to return to her husband, inspite of the abuse.

the fact that adlerstein puts the onus on the victim, and that it was she who forgave and returned, shows exactly where he is at in regards in the attempt of rebeim in the los angeles and other communities, to deflect blame from rabbinic authorities for abuse cases that they become aware of.

secondly, not once does adlerstein bring up nor discuss reporting laws in context with halacha. this is a grave error on his part, and this type of ignorance was shown in the lanner case when lanner's second in command stated on the stand that he was ignorant of the reporting laws in new jersey, and when informed of the laws, stated that he did not believe that they applied to him.

thirdly, i find it interesting that adlerstein has problems with some blogs, yet quotes liberally from wikipedia in regards to the mcmartin case. wikipedia is not a vetted source on the net. it is a user driven source of information and frequently has mistatements of facts, or facts that can be easily rebutted depending on which side of a topic one comes from.

fourth,

in regards the special beis din. it seems to me. that (at least in adlersteins view) it would be setup as a first line or report, not as an adjunct to the civil and criminal courts. if this is the case, and if this is the case in chicago, all that will happen is another halachically ordained level of coverup. i turn back to state reporting laws. in the state of california, a professional or layman who is in charge of children, does not have the right to determine whether something can or cannot be reported. when they become aware of abuse, no matter the severity, they must report it to the proper authorities. end of story, and no beis din should be setup to abrigate responsiblity for the reporting of events.

fifth, adlerstein seems to dismiss inapropriate speech, sexual harrasment and seems to attempt to differentiate between rape and fondling or innapropriate touching. this is a dangerous distinction to make. for example, in the lanner case. frequently when complaints were made regarding his inapropriate speech towards teens, these reports were sluffed off as harmless. in regards to hypothetical sexual harrasment case that adlerestein brings up, he neglects to note that especially in the community, these types of incidents arent reported, therefore, where does he come up with that, well this incident occured 25 years ago, but nothing has occured since. and very nice blaming it on the perps marital problems, as sexual harrasment usually has little to do with what is occuring in a marriage, but much more to do with issues of power.

and i did so like it when he blamed blogs for allowing some perp to continue in his behavior...again, a direct attempt to alleviate criticsm of the rabaim in the community.

all that adlersteins talk did, was reinforce in me, that halachic and rabbinic authorities have a long way to go in both the understanding and how to deal with these issues. until that time comes, i would be very wary at bringing any case before any beis din, special or not

[Rifka]

Shmarya, are you saying that R' Adlerstein does not spend a good stretch of his presentation discussing the clearcut cases when one should not hesitate to go to the authorities? Does he not say (note proper use of block quotes, quotation marks to indicate verbatim quotations, and ellipses to indicate missing text):

"I've got to tell you what the bottom line is. We don't have to spend three hours on the complexity. It is explicit in the Shulchan Aruch, the code of Jewish law, that people who cause grievance to the public, who cause harm to the public, there is no proscription of going to the authorities. And if there ever was a kind of person who is a public menace, a danger ... people who do incredible damage to the children psychologically, physically, change their lives around, the child abuser is certainly part of that. Then there are people in the community, I don't care who they are, whether they're rabbis, principals, social workers, baby sitters, the bottom line, halachicly, is, when there are people out there and the only way to stop them is to go to the authorities, you go to the authorities.

"Halachah does not demand that people judge favorably when judging favorably is going to lead to further damage. It's as simple as that.

"Let me tell you clearly and unequivocally what is supposed to happen when there are credible reports of abuse going on in the community. The first and only consideration is protecting any victims. The first and only consideration is protecting the victims. If ... the best way of doing that is going to the civil authorities, then you go to the civil authorities. This has been repeated again and again and again. I don't know why it comes as such as a surprise to so many people.

"That is the bottom line.

"So please don't misquote or distort anything I'm about to tell you from here on. What I am about to tell you does not take away from that conclusion."

The preceding is verbatim, as best as I can transcribe.

[Shmarya]

Again, the beit din by its very halakhic nature precludes going to police before getting permission from the beit din. You don't know this? Learn. Adlerstein is disingenuous.

[uncle joe mccarthy]

rifka,

a mandated reporter does not have the luxury of determining whether or not a report of abuse is credible...that is not the law.

the fact that adlerstein uses that specific term shows that he is still trying to live on both sides of the fence.

that term is what has been used to coverup many cases of abuse....

[Luke Ford]

My initial quotes of Rav Adlerstein were from my notes. They were imperfect. I have not had time to transcribe the Rav from my audio file. Thank you Rifka for the accurate five graph transcript you made of the Rav's talk.
I did make a correction as Rifka noted.
As I get more time, I will transcribe...

[Rifka]

Thank you, Luke.

[Shmarya]

None of this changes what Adlerstein wants – a beit din to handle abuse cases.:

It will not work. Adlerstein knows this. So do many others:
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2007/02/the_jewish_pres.html

[Luke Ford]

I have now posted an extensive transcript of the rav's talk.

[Byron Prior]

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[Byron Prior]

IN NEWFOUNDLAND and LABRADOR,CANADA

WE HAVE A LEGAL SYSTEM WITH NO JUSTICE.
WHEN T. ALEX HICKMAN WAS ELECTED JUSTICE MINISTER IN SEPTEMBER 1966, IT STARTED A LEGAL SYSTEM WITHOUT JUSTICE, WHICH REMAINS IN PLACE IN NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABADOR TO THIS DAY.

Politicians names and faces change in Ottawa, Ont. and St. John's, Nl. but the Corruption continues to rule our country. I spent from April to October, 7 months, in Ottawa, on Parliament Hill, with permits, handing out 12,000 information sheets, and 7000 more in Newfoundland, about what happened to my family, and a sheet with each, on a Book about my family, PLAYING WITH THE DEVIL, by Martha Jetta, of Paranormal Books, and still no-one has resolved this INJUSTICE. A simple DNA test would see Justice served. The system protects itself, not the public.

Folks, I'd like you all to know that after 40 years of telling the truth about what happened to my family, on Febuary 22/ 07 I was arrested and taken to Court in Ankle Chains & Hand Cuffs, and charged with 3 counts of Deflamatory Liable. Still no-one has asked for DNA tests but I was still charged. I will publish an update info page, at my web site, listing everything that happened in Ottawa for 7 months of 2006, and who I meet and what they did, http://maxpages.com/sexualabuse after I appear in Supreme Court on April 2/07, and I will continue to keep updating that page, as things occure. Please, I'm being persecuted for telling the truth about the corruption in our Legal System and Canadian Politics. I will keep doing so until my last breath. I must appear again on May 1. Now June 1. A list of my support is at http://justicehickman.com and the other sites at the bottom of this message or Search Byron Prior on Google, this is my true life story. Publish it please, I stand by everything I say and these site started in Jan. 2000.
Thank You for carring
Byron Prior

If T. Alex Hickman, the Justice Minister and then Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, from 1966 to 2000, rapes and impregnates your 12 year old child, how do you get justice in this Province when the reports go back to the criminal who did the crime? I've reported this cime and other incest and abuse in my family, for more than 40 years, to all authorities and RCMP who ignored us as children, but they admit they still have 3 of my reports but won't release them. Many other reports of abuse were made by 3 sisters and one brother. We are left in Canada without even basic human rights or protection under Canadain Laws. No lawyer will represent us and the last lawyer I acked told me, if any lawyer, in this province, tried to represent you, it would be the last job they ever do as a lawyer in this province. The Legal System has done nothing to help, it's been completely controlled here by T. Alex Hickman, for 34 years and he still, in retirement, has control.

Please ask our Prime Minister, Mr. Stephen Harper, at pm@pm.gc.ca and ask our Premier, Mr. Danny Williams, at premier@gov.nl.ca to give our family justice. Visit our information website at http://maxpages.com/sexualabuse for seven more pages about abuse of our family, letters from family members and police statements, and no justice to this day. Mr. Prime Minister Stephen Harper, you said during the election you would put families as a priority on your Government Agenda, please help mine, in your letters to me you said you would. Visit our website and sign our guest book with your support.
These are the people on the committee who approved my right to protest on Parliament Hill with my signs and handouts with all this content for 7 months:

1. Mr. K. Macleod (Ceremonial & Protocol) Tel #994-3647
2. Mr. Raymond M. Lambe )PCO) Tel #957-5363
3. Mr. Serge Gourgiue (Senate) Tel #943-0183
4. Ms. Audrey O'Brien (House of Commons) Tel #992-2637
5. Mr. Charles Maier (Public Works) Tel #990-6769
6. Mr. Roger Brown, Chief Supt. (RCMP) Tel #993-8839
7. Mr. Marc Graveline (National Capital Commission) Tel #239-5510

Newfoundland & Labrador MHA's who came to see me and took my handout:

1. Mr. Tom Marshall - Justice Minister
2. Mr. John Ottenheimer - Inter-Government Affairs
3. Mr. Jack Harris - NPD Leader
4. MHA - Tom Oaborne came by but didn't speak or take a handout
5. NL Liberal Senator Bill Rompkey tried several times to have the RCMP remove me and my signs from Parliament Hill
6. NL. Liberal Senator George Baker and his wife, he said he would speak with me the following day, the following day never came.
7. Conservative M.P. Mr. Norman Doyle did his job and I thank him. My member came out to see me and delivered my full information package to the Justice Minister, Mr. Vic Towes, himself in person and came to see how I was doing several times. Thank you Mr. Norman Doyle for your concern and your help.

Byron Prior
Tele# 709-834-9822
66 Readers Hill Cres.
Conception Bay South, NL.
A1W 5B4
alltrue@nl.rogers.com
http://maxpages.com/sexualabuse
http://justicehickman.com

[Hiyavrom]

I'm sure glad that Rabbi A. got rid of the imperatives to rebuke one's sinning neighbor, to pursue Sedeq, and to knock down the rodef. They were so inconvenient.

[Byron David Prior]

A family was destroyed as young children by Incest, Child Rape and Abuse of every kind in a small town of 2500 people. Supreme Court Judges, Politicians and RCMP are in a position of " Conflict of Interest" and pay a hooker, their mother, to keep quiet, in this case of Child Rape, Incest, Abuse and Legal System Persecution in Newfoundland. Their names and why are evident on Harrietts Customer List at this Website; http://maxpages.com/sexualabuse