Jesus' Burial Cave And Casket Found?

My friend Simcha Jacobovici and his friend James Cameron think they have found the burial cave of Jesus and his family. Ynet reports:

…If it proves true, the discovery, which will be revealed at a press conference in New York Monday, could shake up the Christian world as one of the most significant archeological finds in history.

The coffins which, according to the filmmakers held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene will be displayed for the first time on Monday in New York.

Jointly produced by Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici and Oscar winning director James Cameron, the film tells the exciting and tortuous story of the archeological discovery.

The story starts in 1980 in Jerusalem’s Talpiyot neighborhood, with the discovery of a 2,000 year old cave containing ten coffins. Six of the ten coffins were carved with inscriptions reading the names: Jesua son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Matthew, Jofa (Joseph, identified as Jesus’ brother), Judah son of Jesua (Jesus’ son - the filmmakers claim).

Decades of research
The findings in the cave, including the decipherment of the inscriptions, were first revealed about ten years ago by internationally renowned Israeli archeologist Professor Amos Kloner.

Since their discovery, the caskets were kept in the Israeli Antiquities Authority archive in Beit Shemesh, but now two have been sent to New York for their first public exhibition.

Although the cave was discovered nearly 30 years ago and the casket inscriptions decoded ten years ago, the filmmakers are the first to establish that the cave was in fact the burial site of Jesus and his family.

The findings challenge the traditional Christian belief that Jesus was resurrected three days after his burial and only later rose to heaven.

The film, which documents the stages of the discovery, is the result of three years labor and research. It will be broadcast on the international Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada’s Vision and Israel’s Channel 8, which also took part in the film's production.

According to the filmmakers, the film’s claim is based on close work with world-famous scientists, archeologists, statisticians, DNA specialists and antiquities experts.

These guys found Mount Sinai last year, so who knows …

Comments

"My friend Simcha Jacobovici"

Ahh here we go again. So now this bullshit artist is your friend too.? Well birds, or liars of a feather...

Well for a dignified and educated demolition of this guys Exodcus bunkum, read the well reasoned refutation at this site.

http://www.heardworld.com/higgaion/?page_id=119

[Rahel]

Why is it that, wnever someone comes to this to say something seriously negative, like the comment above, no name is given? Not even anonymous?

Rahel what does it matter. The only point is, is that this prevarictor, the FailedJew Rosenberg, amongst all the other star and celebrities and writers that he claims as friends, is this publicity tabloidist.

The site I linked, also has linked to a multitude of other sites that demolish SimJacs theorys.
This time old Scotty has name dropped somebody who dosent have the credentials for any of the stuff he expounds in his Mockumentarys.
He is riding on the coattails of the Da Vinci Code to get his 15 minutes of fame and Contributed to more of the crap posted here. Oh well, Im sure we will be hearing from Scottys buddy Olmert or maybe even Bush soon enough.

[Itzhak Schier]

These guys found Mount Sinai last year, so who knows …
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Please explain. Didn't we always know where Har Sinai is?

As for these findings, all that is proven is that there was a historical person named J who had some sort of a following. While there are some who doubt his authenticity, it is not at all problematic for Torah Jews to accept that he did exist. After all, if he did not exist, would we keep nitel?

[rebeljew]

Perhaps next year they will find Neverland. After all, the mesora gives its exact location, second star to the right and straight on till morning.

In fact, even if they prove that the remains that they have are 1st century and all, they still have not proven anything about Jesus, even his existence. Do they have the official Jesus DNA and dental records? It is absurd. What in blazes can you use as proof, given that every indication is that Jesus was plausible but fictional?

[Shmarya]

There is a machloket regard where Mt. Sinai is. There are at least three shitot, one of them points to a mountain is Saudi Arabia. Look in the back of the Koren (Hebrew) Tanach to see the maps of these shitot.

Simcha claims to have "found" the correct mountain – i.e., proved which one it is, along with other parts of the Exodus story. I don't buy it, myself.

[Yos]

I found the easter bunnies bones! I'm going to contact a DNA specialist and get a genetic sample from my buck-toothed neighbor for comparision.

[rebeljew]

I beleive there is a guy named Wyatt, who claims to have found, among other things, Noah's ark, the blood of Jesus, the place of the grave of Moshe. How would you corrroborate these things?

What would prove that Mt. Sinai was indeed THE Mt. Sinai, and what would prove that any given blood was that of Jesus (see the silliness surrounding the Turin artifact)? It reminds me of the old joke that the Iliad was not written by Homer the poet, but another poet also named Homer.

[Sara X]

As someone said on another blog, The truth of the Gospels could be seen in the actions of the Pharisees of the day (Charedim) .

UOJ who in his own way he is Jesus Christ for the 21st Century and he does not profess to be the Son Of God just pointing out the excess of the charedim and child molesters

Just replace the money changers with the child molesters and you would do just fine

[Eini Tzofiya]

sorry reb shmarya.
S.J, I don't know how he got any reward.
he is comparable to siegfried and roy acts, only much less convincing. his pseudo science doesn't stand any scientific criteria.
in his recent t.v program the naked archeologist, his smiles are those of one deriding his audience and happy to make a living from nonsensical presentations.
i don't understand why any academic -and there are many- takes part in his program. he actually shoves the silly presumptions down their throat.
so he is making a parnassa from that, good for him. but one ought not to take him seriously. apart from that, he is a wonderfull community member who contributes much to his community.

[Eini Tzofiya]

"Simcha claims to have "found" the correct mountain – i.e., proved which one it is, along with other parts of the Exodus story. I don't buy it, myself."
Was it Mount Karkom?
If so, he "found it" in the sense that he brought this "hypothesis" to America. The theory of Mt Karkom has long been in the Israeli Media and academic circles. His proofs, ahem..... using circle to establish distances is far from convincing, as Shmarya correctly points out.
The trouble with that, is that him and the "owner" of James Ossuary and many others, give a bad name to anything Israeli, Jewish and Biblical.
And oh, Jesus Mischpocheh, is in caskets now?
And why not in Ossuaries like brother James (Yankel)? Or Sarcophagis?

[Brian Novinska]

What in blazes can you use as proof, given that every indication is that Jesus was plausible but fictional?

Posted by: rebeljew | February 23, 2007 at 03:41 PM

Gather the facts before you conclude what is 'fictional'.....

[healthy former charedei]

I guess then the ari was wrong. He states that jesus was buried near tzfas.

[Yos]

Eini, I think they were talking about Ossuraries, actually.

Did the ari really say where jesus is buried or was that a joke?

[Dave]

Hashem wanted to teach us a lesson about us wanting a person to be the Mashiach as opposed to a Messianic era, so the Eternal One allowed Christianity to develop. Be careful what you wish for, as they say.
When I was a kid I believed that the Mashiach would be a man according to the definition of Chazal. I no longer believe that. There will be no Mashiach. There will be a Messianic era. I do believe that a Messianic era will come, when all humanity will be filled with the knowledge of Hashem,
"Ba yom ha hu, ba yom ha hu, yihyeh Hashem ehad. Wu shemo, wu shemo, wu shemo ehad."

No smoke without fire !!!!

[JimBob]

"When I was a kid I believed that the Mashiach would be a man according to the definition of Chazal."

Dave it wasnt Chazal it was the Neviim, dont confuse the chaff with the wheat.

[Dave]

Sorry, JimBob, I am wrong. You are correct.
However, even though the Neviim said that the Mashiach would be a man, I still believe it will be an era. That's my personal belief, and that's for the reasons I stated above earlier.

[Neo-Conservaguy]

A small-time rabbi we call Rambam agreed with your vision - he thought political self-rule would be the benchmark for that time. Obviously, he was not frum.

[Jim the Catholic]

According to Worldnetdaily:
"The coffins reportedly carried the names of Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua. Some archaeologists who studied the find point out those were common names in Israel 2,000 years ago."

Surely opponents of Christianity can offer a better disproof than this?

This seems to be part II of the James Son of Joseph brother of Jesus Ossuraries nonsense which was declared a forgery. But naturally I'm biased.

[Dave]

Neo-conservaguy, I agree with your postings most of the time, but this time I'll have to disagree. I guess I am not frum.
My concern is however that belief in a Mashiach as a person as opposed to a Messianic era can lead to false Messiahs appearing, or more correctly some people being taken in by false Messiahs, or thinking that their Messiah is somehow God-like in some way, which is totally contrary to Judaism. Indeed Judaism stops being Judaism at that point. Therefore I cannot believe in Mashiach as a person, only an era.
I am glad I agree with Rambam. At least I am in good company.

[Neo-Conservaguy]

I was being ironic - the point is many of the great sages over time took positions that wouldn't be considered "frum enough" for many current Orthodox rabbis. You are in the best company, indeed.

[Dave]

Sorry, I misunderstood. I am glad we are in agreement.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Maybe those same archaeologists can see what's up at the Rebbe's Ohel in Queens! :)