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April 16, 2006

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"The trend here is to accept reality. There are about a million intermarried Jews out of 5.2 million Jews in America. What do you do with them?" said the rabbi, who asked that neither he nor his congregation be identified. "Many of these Jews would convert halachically, but until now, the Orthodox world has written them off."
Indeed, Orthodoxy largely turned away intermarried couples, or demanded months of separation before the conversion and then afterward until marriage. Many more simply refused to convert the non-Jewish spouse. And others refused to sanction a Jewish marriage between the newly-converted spouse and her husband. But all this has been slowly changing. Hundreds of thousands intermarriages later, in a small way, Orthodoxy is finally admitting it was wrong.
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It seems that Tropper conviently forgot to mention that he was megayer his current wife. As far as orthodox addmitting they went wrong all these yeaRs ? i ddo not hink so.
I think this rabbi is just saying it cause it makes him look better now that he is running a conversion buisiness.
Plus of course we wont mention the big BUCKS these batei dinim are raking in for each conversion.
Many are turned off from the high price and go to a concervative deal for much much less.

Although I was born Jewish, I know several people who have gone through orthodox or conservative Jewish conversions. While other organizations are heavily concerned with politics, prestige, or money, Rabbi Tropper's organization has a reputation for having dealt with the orthodox conversion process in a way that is both halachically rigorous/universally recognized, sensitive to the needs/concerns of converts (during the conversion process and afterwards), and reasonably priced. The previous poster referred to the Rabbi's wife as a convert. I believe that it is disrespectful (and possibly against Halacha) to remind a Geir (e.g., the Rabbi's wife) of their past. If anything, a Geir should be held in greater respect than a person who was born Jewish.

so he converted his wife u saying ?
may be, i am not familiar with the man or the case.
what is the consequence ? he is a rabbi, she is a convert married to a rabbi. is there a better scenario for orthodox converts ?
they are damned if they are in the frum fold, they are damned if they marry the not observant -often to cause him to do tshuva- as the observant will not take them.
all those bitching do not deserve these converts. it's a shame, because the mitzvot (over 23?) to love the convert and against honaa to the convert are seemingly an important part of our faith. it is not one of those mitzvot that will never occur such as the ben sorer umore.
these mitzvot (numerically as important as shabbat) were not given by fluke to be cancelled, like sotah. i think we don't deserve them , likewise we are not ready for salvation.
and when some of us whine about geirim, the qb"h will hear - ki hannun ahni !

Rebbetzin Tropper was born Jewish. I know the family personally.

The problem is not the spouse. 50% plus of American marriages now end in divorce. Something in the neighborhood of 86% of intermarriages end in divorce. Everyone thinks that they will beat the statistic. The real need is to teach people to think between their ears and not between their legs. The main problem here is all the "half" Jewish offspring that don't whether it's the front half, back half, top half, bottom half, left half, right half, etc, that's jewish and what to do about it. Modern orthodoxy's embracement of Goyish values... oops, I mean the "secular world" does not help the issue either.

I am very confused. I am a "Jew by choice." I had an Orthodox conversion before my first marriage. My husband and I actively practiced Conservative Judiasm and while I am not Orthodox and not a scholar, I consider myself to be loyal to my faith and to be living a Jewish life. My late husband's family accepted me as a member of the Jewish faith. I am currently remarried to a wonderful man who also considers me Jewish. We go to services together, belong to a Conservative congregation and often attend services at another traditional Temple. The subject of my conversion rarely comes up among our fellow congregants or my step-children but the attitude I usually get is acceptance. Last night we had dinner with my husband's cousin and her family (son, niece, niece's boyfriend and sister-in-law). Someone casually mentioned that my husband and I were part of the large statistic of interfaith marriages. We both objected to that term, since we both consider me to be Jewish and therefore our marriage not to be considered an intermarriage. We were married by a Rabbi who knew of my conversion and had no reservations about the legality of it or the propriety of us considering ourselves a Jewish couple. Everyone at the table, with the exception of myself and my husband felt that I was not a Jew and that we were an interfaith couple, that we'd be counted in the "intermarriage" statistics. I finally gave up arguing because the conversation got very heated and I was told that I only hold the beliefs I do because I am a convert and that no-one who was not a convert would consider me a Jew. Is this the prevalent attitude and belief? I hasten to add that our cousin is a nice person, not terribly religious (doesn't attend services except on the High Holidays and doesn't keep kosher). She also said that most converts only worship (if at all) in Reform congregations. This too was something I did not know and did not match my personal experience. Any light you can shed on these issues would be helpful. After 20 years as a Jewish woman, I must say, I feel very sad and very alienated and somewhat hopeless about ever finding acceptance in my husband's family, much less the larger community.

There isn't much light to shed. Your husband's cousin's family is ignorant.


Hello, I'd like to find an orthodox Rabbi who makes conversions in Miami Fl, I am from Mexico city, and moved to Miami 8 years ago, I have 3 children and now I am divorced since three years ago, I was married for 18 years with a jewish man I never the conversion for many reasons but now I am alone and raising my kids by my own, and I'd like to convert in the jewish religion fate and keep my kids in the same direction, I've always lived as if I was jewish but now I think it is necessary to do it in the correct way because I want to guide my children as a jewish children, please I need advise to acomplish my dreams that it will help my kids to find his way.

My second last name is Pereiro and some rabbis have said that they have Jewish roots. Pereiro is Spanish and therefore of Sephardic origin. So if I was born a Jew of a wind, then I have to be Jewish because my mother's first surname is Pereiro (as said) and his second last name is Ferreiro also has a Spanish origin Hebrew. What I know is if the surname Pereiro, because my last name is Jewish and if I turned into a Jewish man. This occurs through the mother as described in Deuteronomy 7:3-4. Thank you very much for your attention and hope for your reply.
Shalom Ubraja.
Alejandro Santi Pereiro Alejandro from Uruguay
andador5000@hotmail.com

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