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December 27, 2005

Lawsuit Against Rabbi Tendler Made Public

The New York Post has a report on a lawsuit filed against Rabbi Mordechai Tendler. Rabbi Tendler is the son of Yeshiva University's Rabbi Moshe Tendler, the grandson of Rabbi Moshe Feinstein and the nephew of Rabbi Dovid Feinstein. Rabbi Tendler was removed from the Rabbinical Council of America because of a related issue. His father and uncle have continued to stand behind Rabbi Tendler, and arranged for an Israeli haredi Beit Din to hear the case and find against the RCA. That is slowly bringing pressure on the OU, whose rabbis are RCA members. This is a very sad situation all around. What else can one say?

UPDATE: The court filing against Rabbi Tendler has been posted online.

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I'll tell you what one can say.

It's a sham.

If there were "reglayim ledavar" for sure there would have been a criminal indictment first.

There's no evidence. Just a bunch of looney tunes women with mental issues.

I've known the Tendlers for years and this is absolute proof that the more you try to do for someone, the more they screw you in the end.

Funny thing is, the Tendlers going on giving.

The opened their hearts, their doors, and their hearts to all of these unbalanced women.

We are waiting for the RCA's great DNA (Do Not Ask) evidence to appear.

They have slandered an innocent man.

to rebtsvi
It is not the Tendler family but 1 member being targeted. How are you so sure that there isn't some basis to this tragic series of events.Do you actually think that all these people ( no matter how "looney tunes" they possibly be if they aren't only possibly some very vulnerable individuals)conspired in collusion? If so, why? These rumors have been going on for years.Unforunately, he is not the only rabbinical authority with this track record. LET THE TRUTH COME OUT once and for all and hopefully we can prevent further such occurences. As the Talmud teaches us: Ain apitropos L'arayos (Loosely translated: you can never be too safe when it comes to interpersonal relationships). He should have known with which type of people he was interacting with and shoulD have taken the necessary protective steps if he is so innocent. The greatest tragedy here are the victims and their families as well as the other Tendler family members. Our hearts go out to them so that can deal with all the pain. On a another level is the tragedy where Tendler's uncles and other well connected Rabbinical family friends in the are trying to suppress and deny the whole thing. Sad commentary on moral and religious leadership in today's Orthodox camp. No wonder the Messiah hasn't come yet. We get the leadersip we deserve and the rest speaks for itself.

There aren't any victims of Rabbi Tendler.

It is all a manufactured coordinated sham but a bunch of malcontent sick people who have banded together and given themselves a cause.

Forward the light brigade...

Why would a whole bunch of people fabricate a whole bilbul?? Why not some other Rabbi? I do not personally know Tendler by the way. All I do know is that any Rabbi that conducts himself properly and Leshem Shomayim has always been universally admired.At worst he is labelled a mediocre pulpit rabbi.We are dealing with a totally different kettle of fish here. And it stinks sky high. How are you so sure that his hands are clean? Are you a congregant? Family member? There have been some serious investigations conducted by reputable organizations. You are very quick to label a large number of people with very negative attributes. Do you personally know them? What is their agenda ? Let the truth emerge.

Rabbi Tendler and Rabbi Carlebach spent a lot of time dealing with the troubled souls.

These people flocked to them because they opened their hearts and their doors to them.

And to be kefuya tova, they have repaid evil instead of good.

Let's watch the truth come out in court.

Rebtsvi is Rabbi Tsvi (Harlan) David Kilstein a day school principal in Boca Raton, Florida. Kilstein claims smicha from Rabbi Yosef Dov Halevi Soloveitchik and that he did shimish in halacha l’maase with Rav Moshe Dovid Tendler.

If that does shock you read the thread going on about this at Canonist.

http://www.canonist.com/?p=406#comment-2115

A FORMER day school principal in Boca Raton, Florida.

Thank God.

What, it isn't enough that your strange kinky perversions are made known on one blog, you need the entire world to know about your relationship with NAMBLA?

Stop smoking crack. It's affecting your brain.

JWB is a coward hiding behind this chador of annonymity which allows him the freedom of character assassination without responsibility.

Come on out coward.

>Come on out coward.

I'm not stupid Kilstein, I've seen how you smear people and I'm familiar with you background.

Have some guts and answer our simple questions:

Do you have a medical background to claim these women have “mental issues”?

Do you know these women?

Have you spoken with anyone outside the Tendler camp about this case?

And if they have mental issues (they don’t of course), shouldn’t you be getting them help, not smearing them?

Are you comfortable with your attacks against the RCA and the rabbonim there? Do you have no respect for the rabbonim there? What do you think of Rav Blau and Rav Schwartz?

Were you involved or do you have any knowledge of Tendler’s 6-figure settlement with one victim?

And while we are at it, since everyone else’s history (in your mind) seems to be in issue:

1) Do you deny that during the 80s you were arrested for kidnapping?

2) During the period you were an active member in the JDL in New York, what do you know of JDL activities related to arson and in particular to arsons where firefighters and innocent by-standers were injured and even killed?

To rebtsvi

You have not responded to the questions I raised above. Your only comment is directed at Tendler's female accusers by discrediting them outright. Quite frankly, I question your credibility and/or intellectual honesty. I do agree on 1 point though. Let the truth hopefully emerge in court.

You're repeating yourself. It's a sign of heavy drug use.

You are a master-baiter in the art of presupposition.

"During the period you were an active member in the JDL in New York, what do you know of JDL activities related to arson and in particular to arsons where firefighters and innocent by-standers were injured and even killed?"

Where did you get this crap from dirt bag?

If you stop smearing and start answering some of my questions, I'll answer some of yours.

If you stopped smearing, you wouldn't have a life.

Come on out coward.

And I was so looking forward to having a rational dialogue with you Harlan.

Oh well.

To rebtvi:

Please ignore my last post requesting information. It is quite apparent from the ongoing attacks you are having with jewishwhistleblower that you are a menuval.You have no credibility. You are just blindly defending Tendler. You have serious communication problems sir. Get help.

And I was so looking forward to having a rational dialogue with you Harlan.

That would be a first for you.

"Harlan, I'm less interested in your authorithy to pasken as your FBI kidnapping file and alleged involvement in several JDL arsons."

This is your style. You find an annonymous post and take it as Torah MiSinai.

And you wave it like a flag behind your mask of cowardice.

You are an empty pathetic creature whose only weapon is your hiding behing your mask.

Your probably Vicki Polin is disguise.

Make that a large disguise.

>Your probably Vicki Polin is disguise.

As usual you are wrong.

>Make that a large disguise.

Thank God you're no longer in education.

>You're probably Vicki Polin is disguise.

As usual you are wrong.


PROVE IT.

I wonder if this blog and some of the others could be entered into evidence in the civil suit as evidence of the harassment the survivor(s) had to endure by coming forward?

I also wanted to suggest everyone read this “Understanding the alleged Modus Operandi of Rabbi Mordecai Tendler”
http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/2005/12/understanding-alleged-modus-operandi.html

I believe most people will find it insightful into the mindset of both the alleged offender and the survivors.

>>>You're probably Vicki Polin is disguise.
>>
>>As usual you are wrong.
>>
>>
>PROVE IT.

Prove a negative? You really shouldn't be in education.

You just proved my point.

Here's the Vicki/JWB double team shuffle.

Vicki, what do little children taste like?

Do you remember eating them?

Harlan (AKA: Tsvi Kilstein), perhaps you would like to explain to us why you are no longer in education field?

I’m also curious why you left the “deprogramming” business?

I left the deprogramming field because I discovered faster and less strenous ways to get people out of cults.

I am still called in for the most difficult cases anywhere in the world.

The techniques of classic deprogramming are no longer necessary with my techniques.

Instead of spending a week with an ex-cult memeber, I can assist them in making choices in just a few hours.

That's why my phone still rings. I can get them out when no one else can.

God help the people foolish enough or desperate enough to put their children in your hands.

Harlan (Tsvi) Kilstein, can you tell us about when you were arrested by the FBI?

What were the charges?

Can you also tell us about how you met your buddy Tovia Singer?

Too bad we don't know about any allegations of sexual misconduct against Rabbi Harlan (Tsvi) Kilstein. If there were any I'm sure he would get a gold star on The Awareness Center's list of alleged and convicted sex offenders.

I think this dude is pretty dangerous to unsuspecting individuals.

Sorry but you already know the answer to both of these.

I never was arrested by the FBI.

Tovia and I were neighbors in Teaneck.

Secret's out.

Lord help the survivor who stumbles into the clutches of Vicki's blubber.

FYI
Not JWB
Not Vicki
Try Again

Too bad we don't know about any allegations of sexual misconduct against Rabbi Harlan (Tsvi) Kilstein. If there were any I'm sure he would get a gold star on The Awareness Center's list of alleged and convicted sex offenders.

Hey, I'm sure you could make them up.

It's not like you haven't done it before.

Sorry to disappoint you. :-(

>I never was arrested by the FBI.

It was the NY city police in 1983, not the FBI.

Let’s get back to the real issue. The case of Rabbi Mordecai Tendler, and the allegations made against him. B’H’ it finally made it to the press. B’H’ finally the case will be heard in a court of law.

I know you want to distract from the real issue, because it's difficult for you to face the facts. Your buddy, Rabbi Mordecai Tendler has been accused of professional sexual misconduct.

So why were you arrested by the NY City Polcie department?

And since you're such a smarty pants, why not continue and mention the case was dropped by the DA's office and expunged because there was no evidence.

Was kind of hard to convict a rabbi who was helping an Auschwitz survivor rescue her daughter from a sex therapy cult as a volunteer.

When the DA heard my story, the case was DOA.

Yep, mighty proud of that story. Nice of you to mention it.

I don't know why, perhaps it's part of your schizo personality, that you have to take up space on two blogs.

It could be because Vicki is incredibly hungry for baby barbecue but there may just be another reason.

>case was dropped by the DA's office

Now was that so hard?

So I guess you've done worse then start a website and post a few names to protect people from sexual predators.

Have some guts and answer our other simple questions:

Do you have a medical background to claim these women have “mental issues”?

Do you know these women?

Have you spoken with anyone outside the Tendler camp about this case?

And if they have mental issues (they don’t of course), shouldn’t you be getting them help, not smearing them?

Are you comfortable with your attacks against the RCA and the rabbonim there? Do you have no respect for the rabbonim there? What do you think of Rav Blau and Rav Schwartz?

Were you involved or do you have any knowledge of Tendler’s 6-figure settlement with one victim?

And while we are at it, since everyone else’s history (in your mind) seems to be in issue:

1) answered

2) During the period you were an active member in the JDL in New York, what do you know of JDL activities related to arson and in particular to arsons where firefighters and innocent by-standers were injured and even killed?

To quote Abbie Hoffman,

"Can I take the fifth ammendment? I never took the fifth ammendment and it always seemed kinda cool."

Once again, I don't know where you get your wacko information.

Arson? Not my style at all.

Everyone knows my thing was missionaries and cults.

Today, when there's a tough case they still call me.

I laugh at the depths to which you will sink to slander someone.

Lo Haya Ha devorim haelu.

Too bad we don't know about any allegations of sexual misconduct against Rabbi Harlan (Tsvi) Kilstein. If there were any I'm sure he would get a gold star on The Awareness Center's list of alleged and convicted sex offenders.

Yes, too bad there aren't more victims we can manipulate.

Let's make up some allegations. Has there ever been a lower form of life on this blog?

Earlier you said that you "left the deprogramming field because you found a faster faster and less strenous ways to get people out of cults."

I was curious what your education and training is to be providing this sort of service?

You also said:

"I am still called in for the most difficult cases anywhere in the world.

The techniques of classic deprogramming are no longer necessary with my techniques.

Instead of spending a week with an ex-cult memeber, I can assist them in making choices in just a few hours.

That's why my phone still rings. I can get them out when no one else can."


Who calls you?

I don't reveal my methods at all.

I get calls from Rabbis all around the world.

I get calls from Parents all around the world.

They don't call as often as they used to but I don't do it full time.

I don't advertise.

People who need me, find me.

Why don't they call as often anymore? What rabbis used to refer to you?

>Let's make up some allegations.

That's your bag, not mine.

I've asked you simple questions and you make out like I've attacked you.

I had information as to your police arrest record. I asked you about it. I did not exaggerate and I was correct.

You committed a crime, but you had a justification. Fine.

You claim that Vicki is mentally ill, that is not a crime and if true (its not) then you should be trying to help her not torture her.

You continue to use mind games and trigger words in an apparent ploy to torture someone you claim is mentally ill. Why? You are a deprogrammer so you are clearly aware of the techniques you are using and what damage you can do using those techniques.

If when you knew Vicki, you determined she was mentally ill (and what medical training do you have in that area), what medical assistance did you get her? None.

You claim Vicki is sick and disturbed, but the way you post to her (in the mistaken belief I am Vicki) you just demonstrates how vile and abusive you are.

I do not believe anything you say.

Whatever help Vicki approached you for in terms of her relative in Jews for Jesus, it is clear you provided no help and to try to use it now against Vicki as a smear, just shows you for what you are: a small thug.

Smearing people you claim are mentally ill, what a hero you are.

You stated that you are cult expert. You also mentioned you know Vicki. How did you meet her? Did someone refer her to you? In what context did they refer her to you?

I didn't commit a crime period.

It wasn't that there was a justified crime.

There was no crime. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

You've invented some arson allegation.

Your fat alter ego wants to invent an abuse allegation.

That's your modus operendi isn't it?

You don't want to believe Vicki told me she was in a ritual abuse cult, took part in child sacrifices, and was penetrated by ritual objects in her synagogue, you're choice.

Ask her to publicly deny it.

All she does is blame her therapist.

She's never taken responsibility for it.

Poor Vicki.

Vicki has spent her life failing to distinguish between the innocent and the guilty.

Tonight I re-read the letters from Rabbi Berman to Vicki at the Awareness Center.

Rabbi Berman called her at her game.

Invent an allegation, like you are doing here tonight.

Post it on a blog.

Cite the blog as a source.

Yep. You've played this game before.

If this is true:

"You don't want to believe Vicki told me she was in a ritual abuse cult, took part in child sacrifices, and was penetrated by ritual objects in her synagogue, you're choice."

And if it's true that you claim to be an expert working with individuals involved in cults, in what context would Vicki disclose this sort of information?

Also you stated she initially contacted you seeking help for a relative.

Wouldn't it be logical that she was seeking you out for help? Wouldn't that have been in some sort of professional counseling?

If someone seeks out someone who claims to be an expert working with cult survivors, and also claims to be a rabbi, wouldn't it be natural to presume that what is said would be considered to be confidential?

Strike three, you're out.

Game. Set. And Match.

>>didn't commit a crime period.
>
>It wasn't that there was a justified crime.
>
>There was no crime. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

What law allows you to kidnap someone against their will to help them? Please quote it to me.

Of course it was a crime, you simply have a justification.

>You've invented some arson allegation.

No I've asked you a simple question.

>Your fat alter ego wants to invent
>an abuse allegation.

What are you talking about?

>That's your modus operendi isn't it?

Nope. I quoted accurately regarding your police arrest record. I did not exaggerate and I gave you every opportunity to respond.

>You don't want to believe Vicki told me
>she was in a ritual abuse cult, took part
>in child sacrifices, and was penetrated by
>ritual objects in her synagogue, you're
>choice.

I read your "affidavit", it was inaccurate, it exaggerated and it was factualy wrong at times. As I noted on my blogs, numerous children from the Rogers Jewish community center have identical allegations of abuse.

>Ask her to publicly deny it.

See above.

>All she does is blame her therapist.

Have you talked to her therapist or looked at her medical records. Of course not, it would make it much harder to smear when you have full and accurate information. When you "determined" Vicki was mentally ill did you get her help? Of course not. You're a hero. You waited years and gave the information to Yori Yanover to post.

>She's never taken responsibility for it.

See above.

>Poor Vicki.
>
>Vicki has spent her life failing to
>distinguish between the innocent and
>the guilty.

And you've determined that how?

>Tonight I re-read the letters from Rabbi
>Berman to Vicki at the Awareness Center.

Berman supports Rabbi Dratch's Jsafe and of course Rabbi Dratch filed the initial complaint against Tendler with the RCA. He also is a supporter or Rabb Marc/Mordechai Gafni/Winiarz/Winyarz. Is Gafni a friend of yours too?

>Rabbi Berman called her at her game.

Berman claimed I was Vicki without any evidence. If you or he did some basic checking it would be clear you are wrong.

>Invent an allegation, like you are doing
>here tonight.

I haven't invented one thing.

>Post it on a blog.
>
>Cite the blog as a source.

As usual wrong.

>Yep. You've played this game before.

No game.

Can't a guy step out for a couple of hours without a flame war developing?

Let's try this: If he is guilty, let's hope the court case reveals this and forces him to get help.

If he's innocent, let the cout case prove this and force his accusers to get help.

Past that, what can we do? None of us have the facts or anything new to report. Let's just pray this sad affair is quicly resolved for the good of all involved.

OPRAH: As a child, my next guest was used also in worshipping the devil, participated in human sacrifice rituals and cannibalism. She says her family has been involved in rituals for generations. She is currently in extensive therapy, suffers from multiple personality disorder, meaning she's blocked out many of the terrifying and painful memories of her childhood. Meet "Rachel," who is also in disguise to protect her identity. You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

Inroducing Vicki Polin.

Vicki the Cannibal.

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