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November 21, 2005


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M. Simon

I belonged to what was supposedly an orthodox synagogue growing up in the 50s. I spent my Saturdays with Rabbi Groner studying Talmud.

I now have four children (doing my part) and belong to a Reform Congregation. I honestly can't tell the difference in services. Other than the Sephardic pronunciation.

I really think that the key is the Jewish Nation. And religion is only one of its components.

BTW I intermarried and my mate converted (before the marriage). So let us hear it for intermarriage.

All my kids but one have been bar/bat mitzvah. Surpisingly the oldest who did not get barmitzvah is the most interested in Judaism and has been to Israel (thank you Birthright Israel).

Any way religion or no my kids all understand the importantance of identifying with the Jewish Nation.

conservative apikoris

I blogged on "Rabbi" Jack's little sermon, and I think you need a reality check on the state of non-Orthodox Judaism.


First, most non-Orthodox Jews are proabably Reform theologically, even those who belong to Conservative synagogues. Second, the most important thing about Rabbi Jack's tirade is that what he really wants is for non-orthodox Jews to become sheeplike obedient follwers of the JTS gedolim. Third, I think that non-orthodox Judaism may be in a better state than most people think. We may not fill the pews at shul, and we don't have 15 kids, and we may intermarry (not me!), but we know we're Jewish, and many of us are observant under theradar of the institutions. In other words, we are developing a Jewish life without supporting Jewish institutions, which is fine by me, as Jewish institutions tend to be corrupt and proably have been ever since Moshe asked the Israelites for contributions to build the Mishkan.

Your comments about the eventual meltdown of the orthodox are interesting, however. You can be sure I don't give thier institutions any money. Why should I when they denigrate me?


The only way Judaism can be fixed is first putting an end to a lot of the romantic myths we have been plagued with. Starting with the cult of the Baal Shnorr Tov. A community that wishes to live in slavish devotion to one persons teachings to the extreme of isolating themselves from the Kahal in small ghettoes should be shunned and ignored like is done to the Shomronim and Karaitim.
Did ya ever notice how when some Mekubal makes a statement, how many superstitious Jews jump up out of their shoes and do a hora.??? The Zohar was a medieval fake, many herliche Rebbeim have thought so. Lets stop this Avodah Zorah. What a Mekubaal says no matter how elderly or learned you think him to be. There was a reason why if a Navi wasnt appointed by hashem but like Elisha, was appointed by another true Navi usually his teacher, he was given the deference that he was indeed a Navi or Roeh.
If they are not Neviim than they are either demented or frauds, either way they speak Sheker even if it has a little truth in it.
Finally, put an end to the welfare system of Kollels. Those ignoramuses are supposed to support their own families, at least my ketubah outlines that as one of my duties. Make em go out and get a job and education, because I know that the majority of these guys need to be working because after so many years in one place they we should have a run on Torah Scholars but what we get are a bunch of slobs who need to be run out and excercised and educated.


Thanks for doing your part Scott and not getting married and having leeches around for the rest of us to support.

By the way, it is the obligation of everyone in a community to pay for the Jewish education of our children. Check out Shulchan Aruch and see that this is something that is not relegated to contribute when you want and when you can, it is akin to a tax.

Hashem Tzidkeinu

By the grace of G-d
Shalom uBrocha!
In my humble opinion since we are living in the time of Moshiach the Noahides are picking up and will pick up a significant shareof the bills (if one listens to moshiach that is and teaches 7 Noahide Laws like me and my friends do...) another solution is to sell ones childrens intelectual sefirot to slavery give them higher education and send them to work for those gentiles one is suposed to teach Noahide Laws having them support you...
Shmarya should read Yeshayahu 66 and see that now in the time of redemption the nations will specificly not support someone like himself ...leaving the only way to make money by trying to gain support from Amalek selling out his soul to the devil...

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