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September 15, 2005

Orthodox Rabbi's Drug Pusher Son Gets Special Treatment

The Baltimore Sun reports:

When a Baltimore judge sentenced Moshe Khaver to five years in prison for nearly killing a boy over a marijuana debt, she said the son of a Park Heights rabbi was no different from violent drug dealers from Cherry Hill.

Yet the 19-year-old is being treated differently.

Khaver has served the first 10 months of his prison sentence not in a state facility but in the city's Central Booking and Intake Center, an often crowded facility that typically houses detainees after they are arrested.

There, Khaver has special privileges, such as occupying one of a dozen solitary cells, and more lenient visitation rules, according to internal records.

His mother brings him kosher meals every day, a prosecutor said.

"That's not the normal course of business," William J. Smith, commissioner of the state Division of Pretrial and Detention Services, said of Khaver's confinement conditions.…

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And this is connected to the theme of your site exactly how?

Or have you explanded your "calling" to include embarrassing all Torah Jews?

expose them all
Of course, there is a saying:
Vinagar son of wine

It obviously is posted to show the hypocrasy of a large minority of "Torah Jews". May Rabbi Ovida Youssef could blame his arrest on "Blacks who do not study Torah."

Do you thinik it is wrong that he is brought Kosher food?!! Where is your Jewish soul?!!

B"H
Shmarya probably would have been much happier if Moshe Khaver would have been abused by cellmates and the administration of the prison would have been denied kosher food etc. (G-d forbid!) That would teach him not to embarass "normal Jews" like Shmarya...

Shmarya, have you lost it?

You would advocate that Jews should care for each other, even for Jews who commit severe infractions eligible to recieve capital punishment or excision (karet). This kid violated a minor of the most minor infractions (although the Gentile value system you've adopted would dictate otherwise), certainly all care should be taken, by hook or by crook, to ensure his protection and his accomodations by the Jewish community.

1. The kid tried to murder another Jew.

2. That Jew is now permenently disabled.

3. Khaver and his family have never even apologized, let alone tried to help the Jew he injured or his family.

4. The state prisions have kosher food.

5. The local jail has kosher food.

6. There is no reason to permit his mother daily access and to allow her to bring Khaver food every day.

So, what does all this have to do with Habad..? I thought that this website is the machinary to antagonise them. What on earth does this gotta do with them!

B"H
Shalom uBrocha!
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1. The kid tried to murder another Jew."

Terible
"
2. That Jew is now permenently disabled."
He should pay restitution.

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3. Khaver and his family have never even apologized, let alone tried to help the Jew he injured or his family."

If that's true it doesn't speak good of them.
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4. The state prisions have kosher food.

5. The local jail has kosher food."

Not always and it's not always actualy kosher even when they claim it is.

"6. There is no reason to permit his mother daily access and to allow her to bring Khaver food every day.
Posted by: Shmarya | September 18, 2005 "
There is no halachik reason to forbid his mother daily access and to allow her to bring Khaver food every day.
As a self proclaimed Orthodox Jew only that should matter to you.
Brocha veHatzlocha!
Have a good ands sweet year!
Ariel Sokolovsky
Long Live our Master our Teacher and our Rebbe King Moshiach Forever and Ever!


This is great conversation, but you're assuming that these details are accurate, which they are not.
1. The background to the Moshe Khaver story is much more complex than you'd like to make it seem.
2. His mother clearly has no physical contact with him, even according to the commissioner. The food is delivered through a Christian prison chaplain.
3. He is on "lock-up", which is actually less preferable than ordinary jail. It is isolated and does not allow for space or communication with virtually anyone, unlike jail.
4. The Baltimore jails are going through federal investigations due to the overcrowding and ill management. Mr. Khaver is only one of perhaps nearly 100 inmates that remain in the Central Booking facility rather than jail. It has become standard protocol in Baltimore City, due to the overbooked crowded jails.

It's hard to believe that all of you pseudo intellectuals can openly accept journalism as the gospel truth, pardon the expression.

Think for yourselves, investigate, and be aware of the full story before you pounce on people who may not deserve your sinas chinam.

1. The kid tried to murder another Jew.

In self-defense.

2. That Jew is now permenently disabled.

A lie. That Jew is now fully functional and chilling in Israel. I know him.

3. Khaver and his family have never even apologized, let alone tried to help the Jew he injured or his family.

Khaver has apologized publicly, and his family has been in direct contact with the other family.

4. The state prisions have kosher food.

He is not in a state prison. He is in the Central Intake and Booking Center and there is no Kosher food there.

5. The local jail has kosher food.

See above.

6. There is no reason to permit his mother daily access and to allow her to bring Khaver food every day.

His mother doesn't have daily access. The chaplain brings the food.

Erm, the Massres came to Baltimore starting shit and went back to 'hardcore brooklyn' talking shit.
They were thugs, they came to baltimore trying to rob someone but were taught what Baltimore was really made of.
You, Massres and fellow bastards, are an embarassment to humanity.
The Massre that lives in Baltimore beats his wife and kids.
By the way.
He also lives on Simmonds Avenue.
Wanna talk shit?
OK I'm talking shit right now motherfucker

wat the fuck are all taking about mind ur own fuckin buissness and go fuckin jerk of a goat why are u sitting here and wasting ur time talking about other ppl go home and fuckin worry about urself and ur own kids who hopefully soon will start be abusing drug and then u can see wat the khavers went through

first of all....... you all have no idea about what happened and what is going on. the Khaver family as well as the Massre family hold no gruges. As far as talking about the Massre's . They are not thugs.
The person who you think you want to talk about happens to be a good father and a hard worker who loves his wife and children .SOOOOOOOOOO get your facts straight before opening your mouth. I think you are a jealous person who has nothing better to do with your time........ you wish you could be a Massre because they are good, honest, caring people...........

madly in love
are you one of those young girls who love men who have been in prision? you need to get your facts straight .just remember .when you talk about others it does come back to bite you in the tuchus.

You fucking anti Semite faggot :P
You will burn in hell while this 'drug pusher' goes to heaven because he is better than shit talking scum like you.

R.I.P.

I keep jerking off this goat, but the semen just ain't pumping out :(
Oh, and by the way Chana I WISH I was a Massre, then I could run around and try to intimidate people (and try to stop moving vehicles with my body GET IT GET IT?!)
Ha, I laugh at all of you.
and in response to your derision towards 'madlyinlove'...erm..jealousy?
Get a sodering iron
plug it in
place sodering iron in your vagina
die

peace :)

whoa take a chill dudes!
lets take this step at a time. can 3 ppl hu think they know the story and background of ppl involved in this plz lay it down clearly and then we'll all start taking sides from there

Chana, how's the prostitution business and yes I know exactly who you are

friend
a good 'freind'?
I before E except after C :)
Not such a hard concept to get...really.

(Just a guess do you live in BWOOKLYN? HAHAHAHA)

And abusing 'drug' has nothing to do with this unfortunate story, it has to do with four kids who thought they were tough enough to mug one kid and found out that life can suck when Hashem wants it to suck for you.
Danny Nussbaum, I hope you die.
Same goes for Jack (mastur)Beta and David Zackfucker.
Edward did make up with the Khavers and I really hold no grudges against him, just his choice of homebloods.
:)

All of you posting on here have no idea what they are talking about. Get your facts straight then go for it . Leave the stupidity out. No reason for it.

FYI , Drugs were involved , And it wasnt a mugging as someone suggested . It was all over stupidity . Take drugs and you do stupid things.

One other thing , Why bring up something that happened years ago ?

The khaver are gud ppl i learn wit one of them so grow a pair and stop talking shit and fuck off

They are good people, Things happen . Truth Hurts , Sorry.

I am familar with both sides. No need for the language.(Maybe a little more learning will help).

i am also very familiar withht the story.

and both sides were wrong young and stupid.

and yes drugs will cause stupidity

i hope all that were involved learned from there mistakes and hopefully evryone will move on from this situation

and it had nothing to do with mugging or stealing $20 worth of marijuana

Well now,
5 years later you it has not stopped. Why don't you all leave the Massre family alone. haven't they been enough.. Ezra is a good kid, leave him be.
The Khaver's have do deal with Moshe as well. The kids and families paid a price for a dtupid action. If Moshe was not driving on shabbos and the boys did not see him . None of this would be happining. When anyone breaks Shabbos, There ia always a price to pay.
This should end now. if you get enjoyment out of this, then you have a childs mind .You will not be a happy person. Just an angry person with no emuna

HMMMMMMMM
YOU KNOW FACTS PEOPLE? NOT QUITE.
THE BOYS ALL TESTED NEGATIVE FOR DRUGS. SINCE KHAVER WAS A COWARD AND RAN AWAY FOR 4 WEEKS. HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE TESTED. KHAVER WANTED TO MURDER ALL FOUR BOYS. YES OVER 20$....... KHAVER ADMITTED IT WAS DRUGS..." DRUGS MADE HIM DO IT" DO YOU READ THE PAPERS OR LISTEN TO GOSSIP? THESE ARE FACTS. DON'T YOU BELIEVE ITS TIME TO LET IT GO?

KHAVER IS A PUSSY PLAIN AND SIMPLE.....HE IS NOW IN FACT A HOMOSEXUAL

you people must be very board
stop gossiping and get a life!!!!!

you should all be embarrassed of your selves
do you call yourselves Jewish?
IS this what Jews are all about?

stop promulgating loshon harah people, it is inane and futile. the fact is what ever happened happened and there is no changing the past. indeed, we must learn from past mistakes, however we must never get mired in the puerile sensationalism that will inevitably stem therefrom. as we embark on a new year, we should all commit ourselves to being san lkaf zchus, and turn a new page in the sullied recesses of our hearts and minds.

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