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September 06, 2005

JTA: Chabad Rescues 32 Jews From New Orleans

The JTA reports:

Chabad teams rescue New Orleans Jews

Chabad-sponsored rescue teams have pulled 32 Jews from their New Orleans homes over the past several days, a spokesman for the organization said.

Hundreds more Jews still may be trapped in water-inundated houses or otherwise missing in the Gulf region, Zalman Shmotkin told JTA. Working on foot and boat, the rescue squads — comprised largely of New York-based medics — have encountered some elderly Jews who are reluctant to leave their homes, in addition to one woman who did not wish to evacuate and leave her pets behind to fend for themselves.

The teams were able to convince some victims to evacuate their homes; others stayed put. The Hurricane Relief section of Chabad’s Web site asks anyone who believes they know of people still missing or trapped to provide details through the site, www.chabad.org.

The Chabad teams on the ground will then look into the reports.

The good news is clear. The bad news is that rescuing Jews is not nonsectarian. If Chabad would advertise its hurricane fund as what it really is – a fund to help Jews – I would not have any problem with it. But Chabad is using deceptive advertising to make its fund appear to be nonsectarian, and by doing so siphoning off money from actual nonsectarian efforts like those of the Red Cross and Salvation Army. There is a place for specific Jewish relief targeted to help Jews. People understand that and will give money, goods and time to the effort. There is no need to lie for this cause.

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Have you considered therapy?

As I went through the list of names on the Chabad site, I saw many families I knew that survived.

I also saw some obvious non-Jewish families there. No one deleted them.

I've seen pictures of Chabad rabbis counseling people - without regard to race or religion - in the Astrodome.

Did you see the picture of the Palestinian who asked the Chabad rabbis to talk because he recognized them as Jews?

Shmarya, this is an illness in which you take things that are clearly a kiddush hashem and twist them in your sick little mind.

You really should see someone about this.

When Chabad does something wrong and you catch them, pat yourself on the back.

But when they do something right, just shut up.

You look like a fool.

People are laughing at you.

"Chabad-sponsored rescue teams have pulled ***32 Jews*** from their New Orleans homes over the past several days, a spokesman for the organization said."

Process. This is a statement issued by Chabad. It is what Chabad claims.

It doesn't tell how many other people they pulled out.

You just did it again.

You went assuming.

Should we get the real story from the on the scene people or trust your ability to get the truth from a press release?

It's their statement.

They also helped 2 so-called Israeli "Palestineans", it is non-sectarian!!!

non sectarians ?
don't let me choke
by default , maybe
for failing to refuse
for being unable to refuse
to establish an exception that will justify massive deceipt
they are not allowed to be non sectarians
it's the double talk again
hey anash
wink wink

they also helped 2 so-called Israeli "Palestineans", it is non-sectarian!!!

they helped 2 "so called" ..... who called who ?
what was behind that particular "so" calling ?
how do you wish they were called and why ?

reminds me of earlier :

"Three Chabad-Lubavitch emissaries remained in New Orleans to help residents who couldn’t leave the city."
and 3 little piggies went to market !
Along with several hundreds of priests , pastors , sheikhs , reverends , rabbis , and many thousands of rescuers .
Some stayed of their own will and others ended up stranded . Thousands of kids broke their piggy banks and directed all their savings to the rescue efforts .
The "panicked phone call from a visiting Jewish family " sounds like coming straight out of a weak ethnic joke .
That's all very nice , but non sectarians ? they ain't !

By the grace of G-d
Shalom everyone!
Chabad like all Jews are bound by halocha including the fundrasers.
I challenge Shmarya or any rabbi he choses (or anyone reading this) to prove here on this blog how Chabad fundraising letters violated any halochos mentioned in the Code of Jewish Law as it aplies to advertising and fundraising. Since Shmarya presents himself as an Orthodox Jew it's his duty to abide by the code of Jewish Law and if it's proven that there was no vilation Shmarya should issue a retraction and public apology.
Same aplies to other articles on this site containing various allegations against Chabad and others.
I'm surprised why didn't his local Orthodox Beis Din issue any statement . Don't they know "Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." – Elie Weisel or that shtikah ke'hodah dami -silence is similar to aproval. It's clear that some of the stuff on this site calls for a seruv or worse from any Orthodox Beis Din.
While Shmarya has freedom of speech his local Beis Din does too in fact more like obligation of speech. Where is it? We are all waiting.
PS. Also if there are any lawyers here can they look into the issue whether any part of this site constitutes slander , libel willfull infliction of emotional distress etc. under the law of the land.
With respect and blessing.

Ariel Sokolovsky

Long Live our Master our Teacher and our Rebbe King Moshiach Forever and Ever!

>actual nonsectarian efforts like those of the Red Cross and Salvation Army.

The Salvation Army is hardly nonsectarian.

"I challenge .... (or anyone reading this) "

where should we start ?
if all the oceans were ink
all the earth parchment etc... they may not suffice

midvor sheker tirchok would be a good start to be followed by chillul hashem ....

Here's what you said:

"But Chabad is using deceptive advertising to make its fund appear to be nonsectarian, and by doing so siphoning off money from actual nonsectarian efforts like those of the Red Cross and Salvation Army."

But if you go to the Salvation Army website, it is clearly anything BUT a non-sectarian effort.

Their unabashed goal is to get people saved by the blood of you know who.

Once again, in your sick effort to slander Chabad, you wrote before you thought.

You do that a lot.

This is from the "non-sectarian" Salavtion Army.

It's their mission statement:

More Than a Welfare Agency

For many years, people have had the misconception that The Salvation Army is just a social service agency that also helps out in emergency disaster situations. We are much more than that!


The Salvation Army is part of the Christian Church based on the theory:

"Heart to God, Hand to Man"

The Salvation Army preaches that the teachings of the Bible are fundamental - dealing with the Creation and the Fall of Humankind; and that our rebirth and salvation come through faith, Christ's sacrifice and the Divine grace enabling us to grow in righteousness through the power of God.

THE SALVATION ARMY

MISSION STATEMENT


The Salvation Army, founded in 1865, is an international religious and charitable movement organized and operated on a quasi military pattern and a branch of the Christian Church. Its membership includes officers (clergy), soldiers/adherents (laity), members of varied activity groups and volunteers who serve as advisors, associates and committed participants in its service functions.

The motivation of The Salvation Army is love of God and a practical concern for the needs of humanity. This is expressed by a spiritual ministry, the purpose of which are to preach the Gospel, disseminate Christians truths, supply basic human necessities, provide personal counseling and undertake the spiritual and moral regeneration and physical rehabilitation of all persons in need who come within its sphere of influence regardless of race, color, creed, sex or age.

THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE is from the God of love and is FREE to us...! "God has given us eternal life and this life has its source in his Son." (I John 5:11)

HOW DO WE RECEIVE THIS GIFT?

1. CONFESSING - I, too, am a sinner-separated from God. "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." (Rom. 3:23).
# This must be an honest confession from the heart to God.
2. BELIEVING - Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to restore the relationship between God and man..."I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man cometh to the Father but by me." (John 14:6).

"God demonstrates His own love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." (Rom. 5-8).

3. RECEIVING - Jesus Christ as your personal Savior..."But as many as receive Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God even to those who believe in His name." (John 1:12).

"Behold I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come into him." (Rev.3:20).
THIS IS ALL POSSIBLE BECAUSE Christ DIED for our sins...He was BURIED, He was RAISED on the third day...He APPEARED to Peter , then to the 12...after that He appeared to more than 500...

(1 Cor 15:3-6)

Shmarya, we are waiting for you appology.

"I'm surprised why didn't his local Orthodox Beis Din issue any statement ."

The WHAT? It's fictional.

1. The issue is not the religious nature or affiliation of an organization. The issue is who gets help and what strings that help comes with.

2. When in disasters, the Salvation Army operates as a nonsectarian organization – it helps everybody with no strings attached.

3. Chabad relief is clearly targeting Jews, which is fine. Just don't represent your efforts as nonsectarian relief directed to ALL evacuees.

4. Chabad claims to be nonsectarian relief for ALL evacuees. That claim is false and misleading.

5. Again, targeted relief for Jews is a neccessity that the Jewish community will support, without false and deceptive claims.

There is an urgent need in New Orleans for Black Hats-I'm collecting for them-but I'll give them to the goyim or the Chabad.


Show me the Gelt!

Shmarya, Scott, whaever name you prefer: Yiur agenda is so blatantly clear, that it isn't even funny. You have ONE goal that is to say whatever negative yiou can about Chabad. Face the fe=act you are so full of shit. Why on earth would any sane human being reading this blod ever believe you. I don't think normal people do beieve you. If you still have any following, they are the scummy lowlifes as yourself, who don' jave nything to do with their lives, so this being their moshav leitzim, is thei conduit to express their life's anger on Lubavitch and co. My message to you is very clear: Get a life! Oh, and stop perverting my name.

The New Orleans Jewish Federation is a non-sectarian agency.

How dare they publish this list of missing Jews from New Orleans!

After all, they are non-sectarian.

If you want to be truly non-sectarian,
put up your own blog and blame Chabad.


The New Orleans Federation is anxious to learn of the whereabouts of the following people. If you know anything at all, please contact Adam Bronstone at dam@jewishnola.com
>
> Dr. Steve and Sherry Levine
> Bunny Scherzer
> Cliff McGinness
> Karl Mercker
> Joe Frederick
> Igor and Heidi Vizelberg
> The Kural Family (1218 Selma)
> Amram Cohen
> Yoram Ben Amram
> Scott Ateias
> Ricky Ateias
> Charles Wendell
> Hillel Cannizaro
>
> With Thanks,
>
> Adam Bronstone
> Director, Community Relations
> Jewish Federation of Greater New Orleans
> C/O Jewish Federation of Greater Houston
> 5603 S. Braeswood Blvd.Houston, TX. 77096
> 713/927-1791
> adam@jewishnola.com

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