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March 22, 2005

Chabad And The Holocaust: A Legacy Of Shame

Tzemach Atlas has done a remarkable interview with historian Bryan Mark Rigg on Barry Gourary, o.h., and Chabad and the Holocaust:

[T]he Rebbe [Yosef Yitchok Schneersohn] of course wanted to escape Europe and had his movement employ every means, even approaching the Secretary of State, to get him out, but when he was here in the US, he did not approach those very same people to help rescue those who had to remain in Europe. However, he did approach those people in the government to rescue his library, which he did get out in 1941. Are books more important than people? Some of the books were secular like Dante's Inferno and books on Communism. This is a sad part of the history of the Rebbe. Also he started condemning people who were organizing amazing rescue efforts like rabbis Kotler and Kalmanowitz of the Vad-Haatzala.

Rigg asks if books are more important than people. As I have pointed out many times, as far as Chabad is concerned, the answer to that question is "yes".

When I spoke with Barry Gourary three months ago, I asked him about the Holocaust and his grandfather and father's reaction to it. Barry thought both did eveything possible to rescue Jews, although he had no proof or information to back up that belief. He told me his father backed Rebbe Yosef Yitzchok Schneersohn's moshiach campaign – done in instead of rescue – because "my father was a chassid of my grandfather."

Barry was very precise in his answers: "Ido not know." "I do not remember." "I do not think so." Or specific answers with specific details. His answers seemed completely credible and were given freely.

Sadly, the fact that his belief that the RAYATZ, etc. did everything they could to rescue Jews was nothing more than a belief – he had no facts, no documents, not even any stories to support it – says volumes about the failings of Lubavitch leadership during WW2.

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The author of this blog claims he is Orthodox which would imply he follows halocha-Torah Law yet Torah law prescribes that people like the Rebbe King Moshiach Shlit"a or the Previous Rebbe who are known for their piety, self sacrafice and righteousnes be given greatest benifit of the doubt when their is an action or seeming lack of action that may be described as violating halocha yet the author ignores this law...Why?! The author is upset that Gedolim banned Rabbi Slifkin's books without reading them inside or talking to him yet did he research all available archives did he question all posible witneses to the events before smearing the Previous Rebbe's name or the Rebbe King Moshiach's name?!
Another ironic thing is the author is acusing the Rebbes of the same thing he is guilty of. There is a terible injustice going on against Jewish setlers in the Holy Land of Yisrael and against all Jews living there.The author has talent to write articles, so why isn't there one article on this whole site warning people about the danger of expulsion of Jews from their land?

RELIGIOUS JEWS GATHER AND DON’T SPEAK AGAINST GIVING AWAY LAND?!

When many dozens of Jews who are all religious convene, all of whom review the sidra each week, including the weeks when it talks about the real borders of Eretz Yisroel – additionally, some of them read the newspapers and know what the state of the world is now – and this gathering is for the purpose of strengthening Torah and Judaism, then how is it possible that they spend three days together and spoke about all the important matters, and they made good resolutions, but when it comes to something associated with danger to life to more than a few dozen Jews, they didn’t mention it?

And nobody speaks up!

I told him – you can ask him: There is a din in Shulchan Aruch that one who is silent or one who waits until they come and ask him about pikuach nefesh, the Shulchan Aruch says that “one who [waits until he] is asked is disgraceful.” He also knows about this din too! This is not proper according to Shulchan Aruch! “Do not stand by your friend’s blood,” means, according to Shulchan Aruch, that even when there is a doubt, or a shadow of a doubt, or even a thousandth of a doubt, that perhaps protesting may help, then he must protest!

This is not the place for intricate discussions and you don’t need to ask anyone. The Shulchan Aruch was published in Tzfas by the Beis Yosef, and it has a clear p’sak din, and he does not pasken a law without reason such that you can argue about the reason, but he says the reason: “it will open the land before them.”

(VaYeitzei 5740)

http://chabad.info/bm/index.php?magazine=ee_&status=goto_id&id=480

How can readers take anything the author of this blog says seriously when he can sit and let his brothers blood spill and say nothing while he has the ultimate Hutzpah to accuse Chabad Rebbeim who gave everything for G-d , His Torah and the Jewish people of doing exactly what he is doing?!Is he a hypocrite?
May G-d Almighty grant him and all of us spirit of wisdom spirit of understanding spirit of knowlege and spirit of intelectual honesty!

Long Live our Master our Teacher and our Rebbe King Moshiach Forever and Ever!

In reference to the claim that the Rebbe Rayatz told people not to leave. I heard that Rabbi Bukiet z"l was the son of a Radomske Chosid. His father, like many "Polish" Chassidim, sent him to learn in Lubavitch. When the war came, he said that he with the rest of the family will remain, since his Rebbe held that view, and you (his son R' Chaim Meir) do as the Lubavitcher Rebbe tells you, since you are a Lubavitcher. He left, as per the guidance of the Rayatz. It is a Shmu'a; I heard it second (or third) hand; it is not Mugah. He has children on Shlichus across many time zones, from whom one could verify.

I also heard (years ago, although again, admittedly no documentation, and only from memory) from R' Volfe Greenglass, that the Friedigge Rebbe at one stage, years earlier, said he didn't think there would be war; he explained it in terms of an attempt that Tzadik gozer vHKB"H mekayem, and he compared it to the explanation on the Rashi in Parshat Noach that Noach was maamin and not maamin in the Mabul, hoping thereby to avert it, if it would be possible.

Those who say that the FR told everyone to stay, and then left himself, are peddling lies to the vulnerable and gullible, with very questionable motives.

>>>>>" I also heard (years ago, although again, admittedly no documentation, and only from memory) from R' Volfe Greenglass, that the Friedigge Rebbe at one
stage, years earlier, said he didn't think there would be war; he explained
it in terms of an attempt that Tzadik gozer vHKB"H mekayem, and he compared
it to the explanation on the Rashi in Parshat Noach that Noach was maamin
and not maamin in the Mabul, hoping thereby to avert it, if it would be
possible. "<<<<<

It was not "years earlier." It was the ***SUMMER OF 1939.*** Kfar Chabad had a story on this 8-10 years ago. All first-hand accounts tell of a RAYATZ stunned by the war. He really did not believe it would happen.

Both the RAYATZ and the RASHAB opposed Zionism and moving to America. They regularly told people not to leave Europe.

This might have been forgivible if the behavior of the RAYATZ had been different during his rescue and then on arrival in America. Sadly, it was not.

Re: Story about Rabbi Bukiet (I heard it on Purim from one of his sons):
It was not his father who told him to listen to the Frierdiker Rebbe, it was his father's Rebbe, the Radomsker Rebbe who said that his father should listen to him (Radomsker) but the son, as a Lubavitcher, should listen to ther\ Frierdiker Rebbe.

When Chabad shouts out, "Long live our king messiah" I think the proper response is, "You are your rebbe are pigs."

The real problem with the Jewish world is in the vacuum of real leadership, so many morons, imbeciles, and cowards dance around. Hopefully some day soon the real Moshiac will come and hopefully cut out the fat in the Jewish world and silence these Chabad dirtbags.

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