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December 07, 2004

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Yaakov

So, instead of focusing on the fact that, B"H, the shechitta is going to now be done in a more humane fashion, your main focus is your own disappointment over getting scooped.
B"h, things are being resolved in a positive way. Just leave it at that.

Shmarya

My disappointment is over being trated in a less than honest fashion. I dislike being misled, and i also worry that many of the OU's 'changes' will be cosmetic in nature.

Ploni

Well, now I am thinking "If Rubshkin was doing all these things incorrectly right under the noses of the OU, KAJ, UMK, Crown Heights Beit Din, Kehilla Kosher (LA), Margareten, and several other kosher supervisions, then why should I trust them now?" but I'm not thinking Why keep Kosher? I'm thinking Have I really been keeping Kosher all these years? Heads need to roll.

Mr Clock

It would be one thing if this was run by the 'Conservadox' and they just went by the most leniant ruling possible and the slaughter house was known as a 99% kosher place. But you should see these people nothing but the strictest ruling. Cannot even use an umbrella on a Yom Tov cause it would be erecting a shelter. Milk got to inspected (halave Yisroal) lest it have pig milk in it. All the while it is not feasable to do it anyway and years ago I talked to somebody the U of Minnesota Food Science department and NOTHING strange can go in the milk, farmers can't even put water in the milk it WILL be detected, pigs are fed penicillen laced food- so the milk willhave penicillen in it, some thing that is looked at. Cheese got to be kosher cheese, nevermind that cheese can NOW be made with microbial rennent assuming meat is not brought into the plant and mixed with cheese, it should be easy to certify but can't cause it got to be supervised fully. These people fall over them selves to see how more Orthodox they can be than the next outfit. Then I find out there are running a slaughter house like a bunch on non-believing careerists would, in effect torturing animals and yet saying "nothing wrong! this beef is kosher glatt!" The stuff is simply treif. They couldn't offload that beef to McDonald's at least they insist on humane slaughter. Maybe dog food it might be good for. They could NEVER admit its treif cause then anybody could sue for a complete new set of dishes plus emotional distress etc etc etc. They must all go! can't trust them before can't trust them now . Then they label honest ethical people as NAZIS and ANTISEMITES. They sold Torah for the monthly check.

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