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November 09, 2004

Praying To The Dead, Part 2

From Shmais.com:

THE REBBE ANSWERS!
11:39:PM Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004

On Monday night - 23rd of Menachem Av, Rabbi Shmuel Lew spoke at a Farbrengen in Tiferes Bachurim of Morristown. Coming from the Rebbe's camp - CGI Parksville, NY, Rabbi Lew put the gathering onto a spiritual high!

Shmuel_lew_sheyikhyeThere was a Q&A session at the end where the following was asked: "Rabbi, I encourage people on Mivtzoim to write to the Rebbe, but they complain that they receive no response!! What should I say?"

"A Baal Habos of mine, told me the same thing, said Rabbi Lew. So I asked him: "When you received no response from the Rebbe, what did you do about your problem?" "It eventually just worked itself out."

"Ahahhh!" exclaimed Rabbi Lew, "this is where the answer lays, the Rebbe ALWAYS responds!! It is us however who sometimes don't realize that it is his doing!"

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If you go to
http://knesset.gov.il/protocols/data/html/kalkala/2004-11-01.html
you will see that all your false allegations about the land sales in kfar chabad were proven false.

Knesset
This protocol proves nothing.
Unless clear indication of a miracle, you cannot convince that 171 parcels were sold without any contest at the bare minimum opening price. Apart from that, this has nothing to do with the hocus pocus of R' New !

Last night the Rebbe visited me, and please read this before you think I am some nut, The misguided owner of this site will surely leave this up as another example of some crazy chabadnik.
The Rebbe tired to communicate (it was more of a feeling) in Hebrew but I not totally fluent, then the Rebbe conveyed imagery to make me understand the prayer he want us to say. The prayer must be thought, not said, in the language that our brain thinks in. The exact words are not necessary (after all, I tried to convey in written language what the vision that I saw was.) But the idea is what matters, try to pray visually.
My vision also included a picture of the Rebbe before multiples of 18 candles each in a red glass. Light one candle say the prayer once, light another say the prayer again but once. Each time drop a coin in the box for Chabad poor.(The coin has to be the largest whether the $1.00 coin (largest value) or the half dollar (largest size) I could not make out. Do this before Shabbos. My vision included several pictures that seemed familiar but one that was noticeable was of the Rebbe in a chariot ascending upwards.

Here is the prayer.


Our Rebbe, who dwells in heaven amongst Ha Shem, Avraham our father and Moshe our teacher, you are full of greatness, holiness and radiant love, who looks upon us, protects us and loves us,
Thy holy Kingdom and your holy will be performed on earth when you come again on this earth. Give us our daily needs so that we may be satisfied as we give our prayers to the King Messiah. Forgive our evil deeds and we forgive those who do evil onto us. Beckon us into the holy beliefs and holy deeds. We pray daily for the deliverance to the new world of King Messiah Menachem Mendel Schneerson.

Remember these words are mine, pray the vision that these words tried to express.

The Rebbe will visit many people for this prayer.

Noface l

Noface:

1. I suggest that you log on to "Jews for Jesus" sites. You'll see that your blather is identical to theirs.

2. It's telling that your entire "prayer," contains only one indirect reference to G-d, but at least 5 direct references to the Rebbe.

R Brand
In my vision-I did not 'see' (or feel)Jesus. Since the Christians say Jesus is G-d I should have felt his presence.
Jesus is fake
Noface

R Brand
The prayer is my feeble attempt to put into words my vision. Ha Shem was everywhere
Noface

Hershel,
You're violating you own rule about debating loonies. Not only that, but you also took his words seriously. There are only two possibilities: One, that he's just making fun. In that case, let the dude do his own thing. Two, that he really believes he had the vision. In that case, he needs to have his meds adjusted and/or an inpatient involuntary admission to the hospital where he lived a few months ago. Either way, there's no point.

Rabbi Ginsburgh aroused gasps from the audience recently when he spoke of the meta-historical function of Christianity to prepare the world for the possibility of a moshiach coming back from the dead! He seemed to have full maarei mekomos.

I take it you are referring to R. Yitzchak Ginsburgh, the Rosh Yeshiva of Schechm, who lives in Kfar Chabad – the head of Gal Einei.

The historical mission of Christianity & Chabad !
Why the surprise ? They go hand in hand like coffee and creamer. Elu ve Elu divrei Avodah Zoreh .
With a little difference , the one "could be" of chassidei ummos haolom while the other would be from the sinners of Yisroel !

You MUST check out http://www.xlubi.com
A site run by Max Kohanzad, a British Sephard (of Afghan origin), former Lubavitcher.

Compared to him our Shmarya is a wilting shmerele, nay, a full blown meshichist!
Why doesn't Shmarya aadd his site to his list of links?
Maybe 'cos he's too extreme, or too intellectual, even for him?

Ladron: You can add the Rambam to your list, becauase that is where it comes from.

Ladron: You can add the Rambam to your list, becauase that is where it comes from.

Lantern,
I am not sure to what list to add Rambam. It would help if you told us all which quote from Rambam you are refering to.

Rambam refers to christianity and Islam making the world aware of momotheism etc, not of the ressurrection of a dead Messiah

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