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Is he right ?
Bull's eye !
Except for his statement about large & organised communities . Where he regards their success as limited. Unfortunately it is not true. Even the little is too much.
One of their stratagems , is divide & rule .
Nothing more classic than their Hebrew speaking congregations - i.e. Israelis.
There is no Israeli nusach , if the IDF Siddur comes to your mind , well in Chabad hebrew speaking services, the siddur provided is Kehos-Nussach Ari . They snatch Israelis to a "no fee" service & make them believe that they are praying @ an IDF facility. The fees come from behind.
Did I hear that "The services & contents are shallow ? "
Well they like to keep them this way, lest they wake up ! " Shshsh...They need nothing more elaborate. That's enough."
And so , they set out to homogenise Judaism under their nefarious tutelage.
Posted by: Ladron | October 12, 2004 at 10:53 AM
Financial elite?? Where is your proof. All I see are words on a screen. Show me how the shluchim make so much money. Show may how their intentions are ill-willed. You're still delusional.
Posted by: Yehoshua | October 12, 2004 at 11:32 AM
Yehoshua !
Proof ? ! It's for all to see . When a shaliach spends excessive amounts to pay for rent for his residence , that's the proof . When the rent / or the purchase of housing is in excess to 20 times the cost of where most of his flock lives , that's proof !
You want proof ? Go and look . Many shluchim ask for money which they "demand" as tzedaka money, only to squander people's hard earned money on luxurious housing, fisrt class travel , luxurious articles for them & families . Their kids are raised as little princes in the lap of luxury . From Mizrakh Sheimesh Ad Meivoaw - examples are plenty & proofs are for all to see . I must add that some do better than others . Talk of gzeilo and of Torah as Kardom Lakhpor Boy .
Posted by: Ladron | October 12, 2004 at 02:37 PM
Ummm I've been to some houses of shluchim, they certainly aren't living luxurious lifestyles. Again, where is your proof? Post pictures, financial statements ... you're just a delusional.
Posted by: Yehoshua | October 12, 2004 at 05:19 PM
Josh,
1. Those are not my comments. They're posted on Tzemach Atlas's blog. See the link in my post.
2. I've seen shlukhim living in palaces and doing VERY well financially. I've also seen the opposite, and everything in between. What Tzemach seems to be asserting is that the number living in palaces has grown exponentially (and nepotisticly) in the last few years. That does seem to be true.
3. Personally, I don't care if shlukhim live in palaces as long as the work gets done in the best possible manner. But if the palace comes at the expense of helping – and many times this appears to be true – then I do care.
4. The shlukhim living in *real* poverty need to be helped. I hope 770 is doing so.
Posted by: Shmarya | October 12, 2004 at 05:39 PM
Ok then, post proof to #2.
Posted by: Yehoshua | October 12, 2004 at 06:56 PM
Chabad's books are for the most part closed. Aguch claims to be a shul and doesn't file a 990. The same is true for many other Chabad orgs. What would you like me to do? Travel around the world with a digital camera and photo-blog proof?
Posted by: Shmarya | October 12, 2004 at 07:49 PM
fOR ALL THOSE who want to see Rich Shluchim look at Rabbi Cunin from California. He under the name Chabad of Califonria owns more than $100,000,000 in real estate. It goes without saying that all his children have cars and houses, etc. Talk to anyone in California for more details. He also stole about 7 million worth of real estate from Shmulik Napartek recently to line his pockets with more money. I can go on and on.
Posted by: Joe Gutnick | October 30, 2004 at 11:11 PM
Joe Gutnick's comments interest me. Are these facts documented someplace. Has any journalist in CA written or reported these accusations ?
I recall charges of gunfire at Neparstaks house .
Posted by: Schneur | November 18, 2004 at 03:51 PM
Joe Gutnick's comments interest me. Are these facts documented someplace. Has any journalist in CA written or reported these accusations ?
I recall charges of gunfire at Neparstaks house .
Posted by: Schneur | November 18, 2004 at 03:53 PM